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So sitting here brainstorming and thinking about mobility with a hang-on. I had a set of muddy climbing sticks and they were nice, but had some things I didn't like, particulary weight and noise.

So last year I posted a topic on the use of a rock climbing harness for a safety harness. Keeping in the same thought, anyone ever used an etrier ( Black Diamond Etrier ) I am thinking if I could get the top and bottom anchored and possibly use some sort of seperator to keep the foot loops open it could possibly be used in the same manner as climbing sticks. Yes/No/Maybe? Your nuts? Open to ideas, I know stability is a concern when using rope or webbing but I am thinking with a cinch strap of some sort anchoring the top and bottom sections of each etrier to the tree would provide additional stability needed to safely scale the tree with a safety harness. May be a little tougher than steel steps, but would be a whole lot lighter, easier to pack, and essentially noise free.
 
Poser, thanks for posting this. Gives me another idea. I guess my question is would it be feasible to carry 4 or 5 of the Ertriers and use them essentially as you would tree steps. I understand it would take some skill and practice but do you think it would be feasible?
 
This is genius! How much cost would that be for getting up, say 20ft? The lack of noise is what I am most interested in. I have already illuminated Velcro and many other noisy stuff I carry in. I think a lot of people underestimate how far sounds travel in the early morning. This would help me for 1) being silent and 2) hunting LBL (or any other public land) and not have to worry about theft
 
Poser said:
JCDEERMAN said:
This is genius! How much cost would that be for getting up, say 20ft? The lack of noise is what I am most interested in. I have already illuminated Velcro and many other noisy stuff I carry in. I think a lot of people underestimate how far sounds travel in the early morning. This would help me for 1) being silent and 2) hunting LBL (or any other public land) and not have to worry about theft
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Those Etriers are about $35 each, I think. You can girth hitch one on the front of a climber for bypassing wide tree bases. They are 5 feet long. I climb all the way up to the top step then lean back on my lineman's belt to place the next step as high as I can reach, then hang the Etrier and climb it. Repeat.

I'd say I get 7 feet with each, so about 14 feet placing only 2 steps.
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So $35 per 7ft? Or did I interpret that wrong, Poser?
 
To me a quite approach is the key. Getting to the tree I want to climb silently is the difference between seeing deer and not seeing deer. Once I get to the tree creeping up the tree is just a matter of taking every step seriously no matter what I'm using to get to the top.

By the looks of that rig climbing could take a lot of effort, not good when climbing silently already takes a lot of effort.

If I had to pack in, your idea is worth more than a few tries to perfect. No metal noises with that setup, but wouldn't a climber be better?
 
The thing about a climber is you have to have a straight tree with no limbs. I have a millennium M100 hang on so it and the mounting bracket weigh a total of about 15 lbs. You add climbing sticks and you are at 25-30 lbs easy not to mention bulk and metal on metal. I was just thinking while this could be challenging it may be worth the effort to perfect it. I really like Posers setup may look into something like that to start and adjust from there. What kind of material is the straps on your tree steps?

Also saw where you can get the webbing to tie your own Ertriers for about 0.30 a ft. Takes about 20 ft to make one 5ft long from what I am reading.
 
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So doing some more research I came accross an old thread where they talked about climbing without any tree steps. Basic concept is with a Tree Saddle or Guido's Web and a sling or as some have found an Ertrier or other Aide works a little better and faster. Basically you work it similar to a climber. You take your top anchor point attach to the tree as high as you can reach, attach your Ertrier right below, climb up, slide your top anchor up, sit down in your saddle/GW, reach down and slide your aide up as high as you can reach and repeat (alot more technical than that, but the basic concept). Carrying an extra sling or two would allow you to manuever around limbs fairly easily and with a little practice I could see being at hunting height in 10-12 minutes taking your time and not working up too much of a sweat.

I like your thinking Poser, I think with a little tweaking and experimenting I can come up with a system that I do not dread packing in the woods.
 
I have the Guido's Web. I got it late last season and hunted out of it one time and got my first bow kill out of it. It is not a very light system, but it's super comfortable and can actually serve as a backpack of sorts to carry extra clothes and gear to your stand. I will be doing much of my treestand hunting with it this season. With the Guido's Web I carry rope on tree steps in an ultra light chest pack.
 

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