bow shooting problems

[Headhunter]

I see many post about shooting issues. Many issues with shooting a bow are not problems with the bow or the arrow but with the shooter. One of the best, if not the best, ways to get of "shooter" error is to use the anchor sight by archery innovations, http://archeryinnovations.com/ . I have not used a peep sight in over 20 years and never plan to use one. I have used a no peep style aid ever since they first came out. You will be much more repetitive in your shooting with this aid. They are super easy to install and the biggest plus to me is getting rid of the peep sight and it is much more accurate than a peep sight.

 

[tree_ghost]

Is that the same principle that the IQ sight operates on?


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[Headhunter]

actually the IQ bowsight came from the timberline no peep and the no peep guy got the idea from the anchorsight.

lots cheaper for the anchor sight.

 

[TNDeerGuy]

I completely disagree with making a blanket statement that this product [insert name here] is a fix-all for the majority of shooters and their individual problems. Not bashing the anchor sight directly, but I see this too often--someone has a particular product that they believe in, to the point of cult-like status, and they sell it as the gospel and some that are new to the sport, or struggling, will buy out of desperation only to still have the same issue. I've seen it with sights, rests, add-on gadgets, releases, etc...

As far as the anchor sight, it's okay and yes it will provide instant feedback on SOME form issues, but it is far from cure-all. If the anchor-sight was all of that, then you would see them all over and you don't. It has been years since I've seen someone at a local archery course or a national tournament with one.

As far as the anchor sight directly, the problem most people have that don't like them, me included, is that the shooter has to look at two different locations before the shot can take place. A solid, consistent anchor point and using the ring on the sight housing lined up with the aperture ring on the peep is the same thing that the anchor sight is.

There all kinds of archery gimmicks out there, just like Tin Cup in the movie when he had the shanks, but as long as people understand that many of these products like steady-form, anchor sight, are just regurgitations of what you should be doing naturally with your skeletal structure and existing form implement.

It's like when people tell others to switch to a hinge to fix target panic because they claim it will cure it. It doesn't actually cure the underlying problem, it just changes it and morphs it slightly into another problem.


This is written not to bash, but rather to educate. Feel free to use whatever product you want, but keep in mind that none of these products have reinvented "the wheel", they are current methodology in a different concept or wrapping--often a more expensive cost.

 

[Headhunter]

Tndeerguy, you have to be a liberal. Where did I say it was a fix-all (one thing I know of that is and that is the blob archery target, best archery target on the planet)? Nothing is that. Is it a great aid that will solve many problems and especially help new shooters develop great form, no doubt about it. From your post I can tell you are clueless about the anchor sight, it does basic intelligence to understand it though. That is probably the biggest drawback to it, you do not have to "look at 2 different locations" to use the anchor sight. In a short time, like 1 shooting session, it becomes part part of peripheral vision and you almost do not even notice it. It will for sure make you hold and anchor the bow the EXACT same way every time you shoot. One shooter using the anchor sight (he had never shot a bow until his mid 50's) is winning most every 3d shoot he enters and shooting baseball size groups at 100 yards, he completely credits the anchor sight.

Peep sights consistently fail (I hear stories every season) and can be almost impossible, especially for a new shooter to understand why he shoots tight groups at close range and then the groups get bigger and bigger the further away the target is. They can not understand that "centering" the pin in the peep sight and any tiny movement of the pin in the peep sight will cause you to miss even more. Not to mention can't see the pin in lowlight conditions when the buck of lifetime steps out, tubing breaks, strings stretch, etc.

It is not a gimmick, not in the least. It is a great product that gets rid of the $%#@%&*) peep sight.

If anything I would say the Bowfinger medusa whatever is a gimmick. Friend of mine had one and it was horrible. He put an old nap quiktune on I had and got rid of that rest.

 

[Headhunter]

For those that do not understand, this post http://www.archerytalk.com/vb/showthread.php?t=541537 (old from archerytalk) may help. Especially if your eyes give you trouble and finding a pin in a peep sight in lowlight conditions gives you much trouble, this could be a hunt saver. There is no doubt I get a few extra minutes of hunting time with the Anchor sight I would not get if I still used a peep sight. I have been using this ever since it came out, and I wish I could have had it from the start of my bowhunting, I cannot even remember the deer I had to pass because of a peep sight problem, especially problems in low light conditions. You have to understand the concept, very simple, and it takes a little shooting to get used to, took me about 10 minutes, and it becomes part of your peripheral vision. I love it, all I have to do is look for my pin and shoot. Once you get used to it, it works great as your multi pin option also. I can show and explain if anyone wants to know how to use one pin with the anchor sight but shoot multiple distances out to as far as 80 yards without moving the pin.

It is not for everyone but for many it is a lifesaver and you never have to worry about peep sight tubing, peep sight moving, not being able to see the pin in the peep sight in low light, etc ever again and you will pick up a tiny amount of speed since you can get rid of the peep sight in the string.

No, I don't paid or anything free for anything I use.

 

[TNDeerGuy]

LOL....who didn't see this one coming--someone disagrees with Headhunter and he doesn't like it!!

I never attacked you, like you did me with the snarky liberal comment, but it's a typical response of yours whenever anyone has ever disagreed or speaks opposite of you and this behavior has been well documented in every forum you've ever taken part of--it's nothing new. :)

"One of the best, if not the best, ways to get of "shooter" error is to use the anchor sight by archery innovations" pretty sure that most would be considered a fix-all by definition, but whatever....lol.

Who is this person that is over 50 and is winning every tournament he enters? I'm really curious, because I've never seen anyone, that I can recall offhand, that has won using the anchor-sight--certainly none of the semi-pro and up in NFAA, IBO, ASA, World Archery or Vegas use the anchor-sight. Why is that I wonder?

To be honest, I don't care because whatever you will say will not affect me in any way. I just wanted new users to understand that this isn't a fix-all. Yes, I'm very familiar with it and yes, it does become part of the periphery but you do have to look and make sure the ring is around the dot--even if you just glance at it. I'm glad you like it, I'm even happier that you love it, but don't upset when someone else disagrees with you or has a different viewpoint. Yes, I've seen peeps fail. Yes, I've had them fail. Age, experience, knowledge and technology have helped make the old peep issues we had 15, 20 and 30 years ago a thing of the past--guess that maybe why most still use them. ;)

Name one thing I've bashed on here? Sure I have made alternate recommendations to products based personal testing and things I've physically experienced or seen, but I've never and will never come out and tell another archer you need THIS, or you HAVE TO DO that, because that goes against everything I believe archery to be--a very personal and individual relationship between a person and their equipment. When I do recommend something, like the Medusa since you brought it up, it is because I have tested or have working knowledge of it. If that's being God-like, then I do apologize to anyone that has felt that way--there is only so much one can do over this type of communication format.


Archery is my lifelong joy and it's the reason why I shoot year around and is also why I shoot competitively at the local and national level. Having this type of exposure to the sport, I'm blessed by seeing and talking to so many archers from across the nation. I get to learn and see things, that others unfortunately do not. Fortunately, we're blessed with forums like this so that we can share information.

 

[Headhunter]

I have helped many people (and glad to help anyone if they think I can, for free) with shooting and bow issues, if I can't help I will say so. It is so hard just by looking at someone shoot to see fractions of an inch difference in how one holds and anchors. The slightest change in grip pressure can change where an arrow ends up, from shot to shot, especially at distance. Whether you use it or not for targets or hunting, an anchor sight will show you in a hurry if are changing your grip pressure, even the slightest change, it will show you if are anchoring the same, if you are holding the bow exactly the same every single time you draw back. It is great for treestand hunting, especially if you have an awkward shooting position, if you have to change something in shooting form to make a shot at a deer, if the anchor sight is centered and you have the distance right, use the right pin if you use multiple pins, have the pin on the target, make a good release, you will hit what you are aiming at. One of the best things to me is I have used 1 pin ever since I started bowhunting, 30 years ago. Until I got an adjustable sight bracket, I used "kentucky windage". With the anchor sight, I do not have to adjust my pin and if you use multiple pins, you do not have to anymore and it is so simple, I can show anyone how it works, and depending on bow setup and arrow speed you can use the anchor sight with your single pin as your aiming tool for multiple distances out to long distance (mine is good to 80 yards) in place of adjustable sight bracket or multiple pins. I hate multiple pins, especially in lowlight conditions. It is not for everyone, but it is an awesome tool that aids in hunting and there are many, mostly up north, because that is where they are made that are wearing out the tournament circuits.