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CountryBoy053

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I'm looking to buy me a new bow this year. I'd like to buy a Mathews, but more than likely a used one. I shot my buddies monster chill r and liked it so probably something along those lines.
What are the pros and cons of a single pin sight vs 4 or 5 pin?
Also what are pros and cons of drop always and whisker biscuit.

I've got a Parker bow now and can shoot decent groups.
But in all honesty I've never paper tuned it or anything else.

Are there any good reputable bow shops in east to any of you use or would recommend? I live in Blount county but don't mind a little bit of a drive.

Once I buy one, I'd want to do a new bow the right way.


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I like a 1 pin sight better than a multi pin just because I can see my target and shoot better with one. I shot a whisker biscuit for a few years before I switched to a drop away and liked it, it was a little loud sometimes when I drew back and slowed my arrow down a little. By the way I've got a nice Mathews bow for sale in the classifieds if you're interested.
 
CountryBoy053":2081kdkx said:
I'm looking to buy me a new bow this year. I'd like to buy a Mathews, but more than likely a used one. I shot my buddies monster chill r and liked it so probably something along those lines.
What are the pros and cons of a single pin sight vs 4 or 5 pin?
Also what are pros and cons of drop always and whisker biscuit.

I've got a Parker bow now and can shoot decent groups.
But in all honesty I've never paper tuned it or anything else.

Are there any good reputable bow shops in east to any of you use or would recommend? I live in Blount county but don't mind a little bit of a drive.

Once I buy one, I'd want to do a new bow the right way.


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My advise is do not get stuck on one brand of bow, you will be doing yourself a huge favor by shooting as many as you can and you will quickly eliminate and pickup of the differences of different bows. People get stuck on a certain brand, and yes it is normally Mathews because of the name recognition from their fabulous marketing department, but there are so many quality bows out there right now. Every company has put out some great bows and every company has put out some real garbage as well. There are two bow manufacturers that I will not shoot based on their past or current quality control and customer service issues. You may like Nike quadlight shoes but I may hate them, even though I like Nike—I prefer Nike streamlines, but you may hate them. I like Nike, but you may like Reebok—both are tennis shoes though. See where I'm going? Bows are no different. Shoot as many Mathews, Elites, Hoyts, New Breeds, etc... as you can and you will know when you find that ONE that has the perfect draw, backwall, shot cycle and everything else you want. Do yourself a favor and write down a list of things you do and do not like about your current bow and things that you really would like to have—it is very, very easy to get caught up in a sales pitch from a saleman or a friend....you have to shoot it, not them! ;) That being said, the bow that Zach has for sale is my favorite Mathews of all time and I shot Mathews for years—not anymore, I followed my own advice. ;)

As far as which type of sight, is 100% user preference—both have their equal pro's and con's. A mulit-pin sight has quick yardage acquisition without a lot of that and hold over for the gaps, but the sight picture is very busy and restricted with all the pins. A single pin adjustable, has a much better, unrestricted, sight picture but it is limited in the fact that sometimes you may get caught in a situation where you cannot adjust the sight and you have to figure out how far to hold over or under to make the shot. Personally, I now use a single-pin adjustable but for almost 30 years I used fixed multi-pins.

In the hands of the average archer, I prefer a quality full-containment dropaway and here is why. A whisker biscuit, or similar capture style of rest, holds onto the arrow all the way through the shot cycle and the longer the bow is in contact with the arrow the more movement/torque can be transferred to the arrow from the bow/shooter and it will affect accuracy. A quality dropaway is not in full contact with the arrow for as long, so the amount of movement/torque transferred is minimized. I have seen many people go from shooting softball size groups at 40yds to baseball size groups, or better, just by making the switch. However, I have also seen some that it didn't help. I will always recommend a dropaway.

I do all of my own work, but if I didn't there are only a handful in the entire State I would let touch my equipment—U-Need-It-Archery in Sparta is one of them (just outside of Cookeville). They carry Mathews, Elite and New Breed. You may want to contact Bowhunter163 on here, he works at shop over in your neck of the woods and he is another one I trust.

Hope it works out for you!
 
Andy what kinda medication do you take that gives you the patience and focus to post something like this? [emoji3]
 
I made the big move about 3 months ago to a nice compound. For the past 20 years, I've been shooting a recurve. Wow, how technology has changed over the past 20 years.

Anyway, speed was not my goal, but a smooth, accurate bow is all I was looking for. For goodness sake, I've been shooting 45# recurve with aluminum arrows forever. Who would believe that would kill deer, with all the new, fancy carbon stuff.

I finally went with a Mathews HTR. I figure that this bow will last me for the next 10+ years, so I'd spend the money and get a good one. After shooting the HTR, I had no problems shooting little bitty groups. Drop away rest and single pin for me. Simple is better in my book. It's light years faster than my traditional bows and 30 yards is about my limit... or was my limit. Maybe I'll stretch it out a bit now with this new, high tech bow ;)

Hit the bow shop and try a few out. However the HTR has been a very easy transition for me. I would think the HTX would be also. Get ready to drop some cash $$$$, because ain't nothing cheap like it was 20 years ago. Good luck.
 
TNDeerGuy":ez9yca44 said:
CountryBoy053":ez9yca44 said:
I'm looking to buy me a new bow this year. I'd like to buy a Mathews, but more than likely a used one. I shot my buddies monster chill r and liked it so probably something along those lines.
What are the pros and cons of a single pin sight vs 4 or 5 pin?
Also what are pros and cons of drop always and whisker biscuit.

I've got a Parker bow now and can shoot decent groups.
But in all honesty I've never paper tuned it or anything else.

Are there any good reputable bow shops in east to any of you use or would recommend? I live in Blount county but don't mind a little bit of a drive.

Once I buy one, I'd want to do a new bow the right way.


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My advise is do not get stuck on one brand of bow, you will be doing yourself a huge favor by shooting as many as you can and you will quickly eliminate and pickup of the differences of different bows. People get stuck on a certain brand, and yes it is normally Mathews because of the name recognition from their fabulous marketing department, but there are so many quality bows out there right now. Every company has put out some great bows and every company has put out some real garbage as well. There are two bow manufacturers that I will not shoot based on their past or current quality control and customer service issues. You may like Nike quadlight shoes but I may hate them, even though I like Nike—I prefer Nike streamlines, but you may hate them. I like Nike, but you may like Reebok—both are tennis shoes though. See where I'm going? Bows are no different. Shoot as many Mathews, Elites, Hoyts, New Breeds, etc... as you can and you will know when you find that ONE that has the perfect draw, backwall, shot cycle and everything else you want. Do yourself a favor and write down a list of things you do and do not like about your current bow and things that you really would like to have—it is very, very easy to get caught up in a sales pitch from a saleman or a friend....you have to shoot it, not them! ;) That being said, the bow that Zach has for sale is my favorite Mathews of all time and I shot Mathews for years—not anymore, I followed my own advice. ;)

As far as which type of sight, is 100% user preference—both have their equal pro's and con's. A mulit-pin sight has quick yardage acquisition without a lot of that and hold over for the gaps, but the sight picture is very busy and restricted with all the pins. A single pin adjustable, has a much better, unrestricted, sight picture but it is limited in the fact that sometimes you may get caught in a situation where you cannot adjust the sight and you have to figure out how far to hold over or under to make the shot. Personally, I now use a single-pin adjustable but for almost 30 years I used fixed multi-pins.

In the hands of the average archer, I prefer a quality full-containment dropaway and here is why. A whisker biscuit, or similar capture style of rest, holds onto the arrow all the way through the shot cycle and the longer the bow is in contact with the arrow the more movement/torque can be transferred to the arrow from the bow/shooter and it will affect accuracy. A quality dropaway is not in full contact with the arrow for as long, so the amount of movement/torque transferred is minimized. I have seen many people go from shooting softball size groups at 40yds to baseball size groups, or better, just by making the switch. However, I have also seen some that it didn't help. I will always recommend a dropaway.

I do all of my own work, but if I didn't there are only a handful in the entire State I would let touch my equipment—U-Need-It-Archery in Sparta is one of them (just outside of Cookeville). They carry Mathews, Elite and New Breed. You may want to contact Bowhunter163 on here, he works at shop over in your neck of the woods and he is another one I trust.

Hope it works out for you!

I couldn't agree more with shooting as many bows as possible.....you will quickly eliminate a lot and there are some bows that will just feel a whole lot more comfortable to you....I shot many many brands growing up and got stuck on hoyt and have never switched again...so its safe to say I am a hoyt fan all the way but you may not like one....shooter preference and being comfortable with your equipment is everything and then you can concentrate more on sights and releases etc...but a fall away rest in my opinion is the only way for anybody to go beginners on up...
 
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also sportsmans choice in halls is where i usually go to get equipment and such......if you buy a bow from him he will not let you walk out of the shop without taking you back and papertuning it and making sure everything is just right for you....as an reputable bow shop should i guess...but he is very good.....
 
TNDeerGuy":57gcscbx said:
My advise is do not get stuck on one brand of bow, you will be doing yourself a huge favor by shooting as many as you can and you will quickly eliminate and pickup of the differences of different bows. People get stuck on a certain brand...


Good advice. I thought I was set on a Mathews last year, but I shot the Obsession and really liked them. However, I didn't want to play their waiting game. I had never shot a Hoyt before, and once I gave one a try, I found one that really felt good to me. Ultimately, that's all that matters. Get out there and try as many as you can.
 
UTGrad":h2qbje4p said:
Andy what kinda medication do you take that gives you the patience and focus to post something like this? [emoji3]

Whatever it is, he needs to up the dosage!
 
There's a ton of good advice on this thread!!! I have a friend with a monster for sale $600 fully loaded with arrows. PM if you want more info. Good luck!!!


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