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Well, I gave my can of Blackhorn 209 away due to the dangerous misfires I was getting at the range. With that said, I have a nice loose powder flask and measure and am thinking about shooting loose 777. I bought some Triple 7 FFFG and CVA warns against using it. Hodgdon says its okay, but when I called them they told me to go with what the rifle manufacturer says. The FFFG is sitting in the garage and I am thinking about buying some FFG.

Question: With the 777 Magnum pellets on the market with 2,000 fps potential, what would be my benefits of shooting 777 FFG loose?

If you're shooting 777 FFG loose, what size load are you using and how far out can you drop a deer?

Thanks
 
I recently purchased a TC Triumph, which I havn't shot yet, and it has a pyrodex, black powder, bullet reccomendation guide in it. I have always been a Goex ffg black powder user but will be shooting Pyrodex from now on. It takes approximately 150 grains of ffg to get the same or close to the same bullet velocity from a load of 100 grains or 2 pellets of pryodex.
 
Biggest advantage of pellets is ease of use, especially when loading in the field. Biggest drawback is some guns experience a ring of fouling near the breech where the pellets ignited.

Biggest advantage of the loose powder is more versatility in working up an exact load (such as 95 grains or 115) and also that it's cheaper per pound than pellets.

Of course, some guns shoot better with one or the other, and you won't know which is which until you try them!
 
Oh, for range I usually hunt in places where a 100 yard shot is rare. But I practice out to 150 yards at the range and wouldn't hesitate to shoot that far at a buck.
 
Not to change the subject but I was looking at the Triple Seven Magnums the other day. Are they one big pellet or what? The package they were in really didn't explain.
 
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medwc said:
Not to change the subject but I was looking at the Triple Seven Magnums the other day. Are they one big pellet or what? The package they were in really didn't explain.

They are a bigger pellet. DO NOT USE THREE PELLETS OF THE MAGNUMS.
 
777 pellets shoot great,and are so easy to use in the field or at the range. I'm not messing with loose powder when these pellets are available.
 
Cant help ya, I use BH209. If you use it right, its the best stuff out there. Did you ever use a tighter fitting sabot/bullet combo along with 209a primer?
 
trealtree said:
Cant help ya, I use BH209. If you use it right, its the best stuff out there. Did you ever use a tighter fitting sabot/bullet combo along with 209a primer?

Yep, could barely get the Barnes down the barrel. This stuff works for some but will cause problems with others. It is a no go, but I am glad it is working for you. I wish it worked for me!
 
UTGrad said:
Well, I gave my can of Blackhorn 209 away due to the dangerous misfires I was getting at the range. With that said, I have a nice loose powder flask and measure and am thinking about shooting loose 777. I bought some Triple 7 FFFG and CVA warns against using it. Hodgdon says its okay, but when I called them they told me to go with what the rifle manufacturer says. The FFFG is sitting in the garage and I am thinking about buying some FFG.

Question: With the 777 Magnum pellets on the market with 2,000 fps potential, what would be my benefits of shooting 777 FFG loose?

If you're shooting 777 FFG loose, what size load are you using and how far out can you drop a deer?

Thanks

well for one thing, you get more shots per can of loose than you can with the pellets for the money. loose is hotter than pellets. fffg is about 10-15 percent hotter than ffg. with the same load and bullet weight fffg will shoot about 120fps more than ffg. if your rifle says dont shoot fffg then dont shoot it. do your self a favor and just get some ffg is 777 work up a load with a 250 or 300 gr bullet and go deer hunting. i would suggest starting with 90gr, then 95gr, then 100gr. most rifles i have shot, depending on the bullet, most will shoot accurately with 100gr at about 1800-1850 fps. enough to drop any deer at 100 yards or more.
 
WTM said:
UTGrad said:
Well, I gave my can of Blackhorn 209 away due to the dangerous misfires I was getting at the range. With that said, I have a nice loose powder flask and measure and am thinking about shooting loose 777. I bought some Triple 7 FFFG and CVA warns against using it. Hodgdon says its okay, but when I called them they told me to go with what the rifle manufacturer says. The FFFG is sitting in the garage and I am thinking about buying some FFG.

Question: With the 777 Magnum pellets on the market with 2,000 fps potential, what would be my benefits of shooting 777 FFG loose?

If you're shooting 777 FFG loose, what size load are you using and how far out can you drop a deer?

Thanks

well for one thing, you get more shots per can of loose than you can with the pellets for the money. loose is hotter than pellets. fffg is about 10-15 percent hotter than ffg. with the same load and bullet weight fffg will shoot about 120fps more than ffg. if your rifle says dont shoot fffg then dont shoot it. do your self a favor and just get some ffg is 777 work up a load with a 250 or 300 gr bullet and go deer hunting. i would suggest starting with 90gr, then 95gr, then 100gr. most rifles i have shot, depending on the bullet, most will shoot accurately with 100gr at about 1800-1850 fps. enough to drop any deer at 100 yards or more.

Thanks...I will use 777 ffg.
 

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