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<blockquote data-quote="megalomaniac" data-source="post: 5852911" data-attributes="member: 2805"><p>Was on my way to TN to wear out the coyotes this weekend, so just now reaponding....</p><p></p><p>Don't get me wrong.... im 100% opposed to baiting.for deer. I think it cheapens the hunt itself and I would liken it to hunting turkeys out of a popup blind. Not my cup of tea. </p><p></p><p>But I used to be all about the 'gimmicks' (like most hunters are) back in the day... When I moved to MS, the first thing I did was buy pods and swiped anectene (succinylcholine).from the anesthesia carts for bowhunting (cause it was legal in MS and why the hell not?). Double lunged several deer with my bow and they were dead within 70 yards... just like what I was used to when I bowhunted TN. Yup, just a gimmick, wasn't worth fooling with loading pods, etc. The novelty wore off in just 2 bow seasons.</p><p></p><p>Same thing with baiting. When it was legalized, I lived on top of feeders in the middle of green patches the first year. It just drove me crazy that the bucks I wanted to shoot would come out after dark, but never come out in shooting hours. I was hardheaded and stuck with it most of the season, but finally bailed on the feeders the last week of that first season and hunted travel routes and killed a 5.5yo Feb 12th (season ends Feb 15th here). Since then, I've had quite the microcosm observing varying hunting styles and what's killed on my lease. In 6 years hunting in MS on my lease, there has been a grand total of ONE mature buck killed on a green patch /feeder on my lease (there have been several does and younger bucks killed on feeders).... and the majority of members waste 30 hunts a year staring at a green patch or feeder each year.</p><p></p><p>That being said... I DO think there is an advantage to outbaiting your neighnors... and that's keeping does in the general area. Keep the does on bait on your property, and the bucks will show up during the rut. I've just found out that the chance of killing an old buck is next to zero on a feeder (maybe because of the excess hunting pressure on the food plots with feeders), but you can kill them during the rut 300y away from a feeder on travel routes.</p><p></p><p>So... is there any benefit (herd health) to baiting? NOPE, ZERO. is there any negative health consequences for deer to baiting? Probably not (i say 'probably' as there is a potential increased local spread of communicable diseases from close contact).</p><p></p><p>But what I said before, and will reiterate again... while I don't think baiting for DEER makes a hill of beans difference... putting bait out has the potential for disastrous consequences for other game animals (especially turkeys, due to concentrating birds making them more susceptible to predation, the potential for aflatoxin, the artificial inflation of nest predator populations (raccoons eat the majority of corn in a feeder), etc</p><p></p><p></p><p>So, again, while I could care less about baiting for deer (because it is inconsequential honestly) I'm completely opposed to baiting because of the potential for collateral damage to other species.as well as potentially opening the door to legalize baiting for turkeys (who are COMPLETELY vulnerable to baitimg)</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="megalomaniac, post: 5852911, member: 2805"] Was on my way to TN to wear out the coyotes this weekend, so just now reaponding.... Don't get me wrong.... im 100% opposed to baiting.for deer. I think it cheapens the hunt itself and I would liken it to hunting turkeys out of a popup blind. Not my cup of tea. But I used to be all about the 'gimmicks' (like most hunters are) back in the day... When I moved to MS, the first thing I did was buy pods and swiped anectene (succinylcholine).from the anesthesia carts for bowhunting (cause it was legal in MS and why the hell not?). Double lunged several deer with my bow and they were dead within 70 yards... just like what I was used to when I bowhunted TN. Yup, just a gimmick, wasn't worth fooling with loading pods, etc. The novelty wore off in just 2 bow seasons. Same thing with baiting. When it was legalized, I lived on top of feeders in the middle of green patches the first year. It just drove me crazy that the bucks I wanted to shoot would come out after dark, but never come out in shooting hours. I was hardheaded and stuck with it most of the season, but finally bailed on the feeders the last week of that first season and hunted travel routes and killed a 5.5yo Feb 12th (season ends Feb 15th here). Since then, I've had quite the microcosm observing varying hunting styles and what's killed on my lease. In 6 years hunting in MS on my lease, there has been a grand total of ONE mature buck killed on a green patch /feeder on my lease (there have been several does and younger bucks killed on feeders).... and the majority of members waste 30 hunts a year staring at a green patch or feeder each year. That being said... I DO think there is an advantage to outbaiting your neighnors... and that's keeping does in the general area. Keep the does on bait on your property, and the bucks will show up during the rut. I've just found out that the chance of killing an old buck is next to zero on a feeder (maybe because of the excess hunting pressure on the food plots with feeders), but you can kill them during the rut 300y away from a feeder on travel routes. So... is there any benefit (herd health) to baiting? NOPE, ZERO. is there any negative health consequences for deer to baiting? Probably not (i say 'probably' as there is a potential increased local spread of communicable diseases from close contact). But what I said before, and will reiterate again... while I don't think baiting for DEER makes a hill of beans difference... putting bait out has the potential for disastrous consequences for other game animals (especially turkeys, due to concentrating birds making them more susceptible to predation, the potential for aflatoxin, the artificial inflation of nest predator populations (raccoons eat the majority of corn in a feeder), etc So, again, while I could care less about baiting for deer (because it is inconsequential honestly) I'm completely opposed to baiting because of the potential for collateral damage to other species.as well as potentially opening the door to legalize baiting for turkeys (who are COMPLETELY vulnerable to baitimg) [/QUOTE]
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