Backyard pics/Piebald - update

[tree_ghost]

That's a beautiful deer! Hope he or she makes it to adulthood. They are so cool looking! my old man arrowed this one in north ga when I was about 10 years old. It's the only deer he ever had mounted. He told me he thought it was a goat at first when he saw it coming though the woods lol.

 

[Ski]

It's still out there and no sign of Mom today.

Perhaps momma didn't survive birth. I had a doe on camera last year that was split open something fierce. I expected her to die but she didn't. Still wasn't healed very well when season opened, but she made it through. I haven't seen her yet this year since putting cams out.

 

[BigAl]

Perhaps momma didn't survive birth. I had a doe on camera last year that was split open something fierce. I expected her to die but she didn't. Still wasn't healed very well when season opened, but she made it through. I haven't seen her yet this year since putting cams out.

Pretty sure I saw here walking around the first day I saw the fawn, but no way to tell for sure.

 

[dpmiller613]

If it will give you some hope, look at my Avatar. This is a photo I took of "Billy" on 11/12/2020 from about 20-25 yards, he's 5 1/2 years old. We essentially raised him from a fawn and he was the highlight of the area, all of the neighbors protected him. Last deer season in Upstate NY, a low life trespassing creep, sure cleaned that up, killed him, while sitting in his Razr, another reason to dislike Razr's. However, he brought as lot of joy to many people over his years on Earth and would come within 10 yards of people. He obviously was a delight for the kids. Keep the faith, you too may end up with a Billy of your own.

 

[Snake]

That's a beautiful deer! Hope he or she makes it to adulthood. They are so cool looking! my old man arrowed this one in north ga when I was about 10 years old. It's the only deer he ever had mounted. He told me he thought it was a goat at first when he saw it coming though the woods lol.

Man he's a pretty mount . Wish I had of tanned the hide on the one I had mounted. The eight point I killed didn't have big patches of white he looked like a spotted fawn but bigger with a rack . Killed him the day after Christmas . He was a dumb deer he must have caught me moving because it was just as the sun was coming up . Would not shut up blowing but I couldn't make him out . He just kept it up and when the light was right I found him and he was facing me but he just would shut up so I shot him . Finally climbed down and found him right in the spot I shot him at . Shortest legged adult deer I've ever seen, kinda looked funny with the rack on him looked like a yearling .

 

[BigAl]

If it will give you some hope, look at my Avatar. This is a photo I took of "Billy" on 11/12/2020 from about 20-25 yards, he's 5 1/2 years old. We essentially raised him from a fawn and he was the highlight of the area, all of the neighbors protected him. Last deer season in Upstate NY, a low life trespassing creep, sure cleaned that up, killed him, while sitting in his Razr, another reason to dislike Razr's. However, he brought as lot of joy to many people over his years on Earth and would come within 10 yards of people. He obviously was a delight for the kids. Keep the faith, you too may end up with a Billy of your own.

Sorry to hear that, but glad you got to enjoy him. Hope I see this one around for years.

 

[rem270]

If it will give you some hope, look at my Avatar. This is a photo I took of "Billy" on 11/12/2020 from about 20-25 yards, he's 5 1/2 years old. We essentially raised him from a fawn and he was the highlight of the area, all of the neighbors protected him. Last deer season in Upstate NY, a low life trespassing creep, sure cleaned that up, killed him, while sitting in his Razr, another reason to dislike Razr's. However, he brought as lot of joy to many people over his years on Earth and would come within 10 yards of people. He obviously was a delight for the kids. Keep the faith, you too may end up with a Billy of your own.

People just plain suck :(. Was he caught trespassing and did he have to give up the deer?

 

[dpmiller613]

Unfortunately no, however, stupid is really stupid. His sister happens to be married to my hunting partner's stepson. So, would you think we know pretty much what happened? The Game Wardens can't do much but I've been told he has been advised in the strongest possible terms he might want to take up another sport. We live way out in the country and things have a way of ironing themselves out, even if our supposed system of justice fails us, again. When you piss people off that don't even hunt, you have created a situation that you usually can't dig your way out of. Glad I'll be in Tennessee this season, at least they won't be able to blame me for anything.

 

[BigAl]

Thought I'd post some updated pics. the little one took a walk around the yard on Wed afternoon. It was moving a little better but still not at 100%. Haven't seen it since then.

 

[dpmiller613]

Have you seen any doe with it yet? The one we had was dropped by an old queen doe and she never left it's side. No telling what a doe will do but this little one may have a problem getting another doe to adopt it. This one sure looks a lot like Billy did when he was a fawn. Good luck.

 

[BigAl]

Have you seen any doe with it yet? The one we had was dropped by an old queen doe and she never left it's side. No telling what a doe will do but this little one may have a problem getting another doe to adopt it. This one sure looks a lot like Billy did when he was a fawn. Good luck.

Haven't seen a doe with it. At one point the first night I had several does feeding nearby and they went over to check it out. Seemed really curious/interested. The little one tried to nurse on one of them and it didn't allow it. The small bucks didn't even even acknowledge it was there.

 

[dpmiller613]

You might want to watch to see if it gets weaker. I grew up on a farm and, unfortunately we used to clip fawns when we were mowing. Over the years we raised quite a few that were injured, some with three legs, by just treating them like a calf. Of course we always had whole, unprocessed milk available and teat bottles. Don't know how Tennessee feels about doing that, when we were doing it in NY it was up to the Game Wardens to let us do it, now we have the politicians involved so if we got caught doing that we'd be charged. They'd rather see a dead animal than one saved and healthy,, even with three legs. Our last one, Sally, made it to 13, lived in her own stall, bred every year and wore a red shirt during hunting season.

 

[redblood]

Very pretty lil deer

 

[BSK]

That fawn is a dwarf. I mean literally a genetic dwarf.

 

[Lincoln Co Archer]

That fawn is a dwarf. I mean literally a genetic dwarf.

Would definitely agree.

 

[tree_ghost]

That fawn is a dwarf. I mean literally a genetic dwarf.

Is it the size of the head in relation to the body that is giving this condition away to you? I keep looking at the pictures and that's the only thing that I seem to notice, but I don't have the trained eye that you do either lol.

 

[dpmiller613]

You may be correct in a way. Remember this has to be a genetic tic causing the Piebald so there probably are other tics that happen at the same time. Billy had an unusual body configuration. He was sort of built like a burro, he had shorter legs, a shorter body but was wide and heavy. His rack was very large and when he had antlers he did look like his head was larger than normal. However, a couple of things, two of his offspring have normal size bodies, one is a doe the other is a buck. Also, I can tell you, when the rut rolled around there was no doubt who the head buck was. He would get to be about the meanest creature on the hill, chasing even little button bucks away if a doe was coming hot.

 

[BSK]

Is it the size of the head in relation to the body that is giving this condition away to you? I keep looking at the pictures and that's the only thing that I seem to notice, but I don't have the trained eye that you do either lol.

The shape of the legs, the overbite, and the length of the legs. Piebaldism and dwarfism are very closely related genetic anamolies. Sadly, that fawn has a very low chance of long-term survival.

 

[LA man]

We have this doe hanging around our place, he had twins last year, I haven't seen any fawns with her this year but she did look pregnant

 

[EastTNHunter]

That's a beautiful deer! Hope he or she makes it to adulthood. They are so cool looking! my old man arrowed this one in north ga when I was about 10 years old. It's the only deer he ever had mounted. He told me he thought it was a goat at first when he saw it coming though the woods lol.

I'll bet that broadhead left a blood trail :oops:

 

[BigAl]

We were out of town over the weekend and have yet to see the piebald again. Yesterday we had two additional does in the backyard with fawns.

 

[Pilchard]

Great pictures! I have a mount in my house from a deer my grandfather killed in 1985 that was a piebald. Its legs were solid white and the cape was mostly brown. He had the taxidermist add the feet underneath the mount on the plaque. Only problem is that the taxidermist used the feet from the wrong deer! So the mount just looks like your normal everyday buck with feet added. It's hung in my son's room and he uses the feet as a hat rack:)