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Did TWRC rubberstamp TWRA's recommendation that no changes be made to spring season? Which commissioners put up the good fight? I can't wait 2 weeks for the youtube stream.
 
only first half of the meeting is up... watched it... our voices were certainly heard by the commissioners, but they haven't gotten to statewide big game season structure yet- that part is not available. They addressed WMA's, and motion was made and carried that beardless hens are not to be killed in the fall on WMA's.

I bet the same will pass for statewide fall turkey. But not a darn thing else. Which means we'll save about 400 hens statewide. They better plan to bring the season up next year instead of waiting until 2020... next year is gonna be another bad one.
 
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It appears Jamie woodson is the go to to get things done regarding Turkey's. I'm impressed, she is on em.
 
Rockhound":1mval8k1 said:
It appears Jamie woodson is the go to to get things done regarding Turkey's. I'm impressed, she is on em.
Truly shocking, I've known her for a while and always considered her worthless. New found respect
 
Wonder why the second half with the statewide seasons didn't get posted? Was anybody on here at the meeting?
I am also curious what the email from the NWTF at 10 pm last night said?

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Setterman":vx9qiej0 said:
Rockhound":vx9qiej0 said:
It appears Jamie woodson is the go to to get things done regarding Turkey's. I'm impressed, she is on em.
Truly shocking, I've known her for a while and always considered her worthless. New found respect

She was one of my district coordinators, I emailed her tuesday. Glad I did.


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Rockhound":39v5dw7m said:
It appears Jamie woodson is the go to to get things done regarding Turkey's. I'm impressed, she is on em.

Absolutely. I was furious when Joy Sweaney rambled off bulls..t about how the 2018 paper tags still have to be counted and numbers analyzed so 2018 data "isn't available." I was then very pleased that Woodson pinned her down on it a few minutes later. For a group that puts so much weight on end of year kill numbers, the numbers are jarring.

I am now a big Woodson fan.


FYI, for anyone just wanting to watch the parts relevant to turkey, start at the 48 minute mark and go through 1:17:00. Then watch 1:47:00 through 1:50:30 to hear Woodson go to bat for outlawing hen killing.
 
Parahunter":jjpww5g1 said:
I am also curious what the email from the NWTF at 10 pm last night said?

44 minute mark of the second video. They recommended a later start date, 3 week season, 2 bird limit, and only allowing 1 bird during the first week. In other words, do exactly what Missouri does because they know what the hell they're doing.
 
Southern Sportsman":2ur2iklj said:
Parahunter":2ur2iklj said:
I am also curious what the email from the NWTF at 10 pm last night said?

44 minute mark of the second video. They recommended a later start date, 3 week season, 2 bird limit, and only allowing 1 bird during the first week. In other words, do exactly what Missouri does because they know what the hell they're doing.

I double dog dare someone to post this on the Tn turkey hunters Facebook page with a direct link to the NWTF email.


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Well, it looks like the only thing they are changing is to eliminate fall hen killing. I'm happy they made that change, but I'm pretty disappointed they aren't doing anything to the start dates, limits, or season length. Several people spoke and the commissioners (Woodson) paid a lot of lip service to peoples' concerns, but the whole thing had a very "maybe next year" feel to it.

It seemed pretty clear to me that they are refusing to make changes during this 5 year research study. At one point they mentioned that modifying the fall hen kill regulations would not affect the study, but for the spring they committed to two years with no regulations changes and hoped for more. I'm afraid there will be a whole lot fewer turkeys to study when the study ends in 2020.

scn, your part was very well said.
 
I believe the name "Joe Schultz" was said by Mrs Woodson as the author of the NWTF's recommendations. If so, I applaud him, those were very reasonable to ensure populations stabilize and hopefully increase.

for those of you who did not hear, he recommended reducing limit to 2 birds, only 1 of which can be killed during 1st week, shortening season to 3 weeks, delaying season opening, eliminating all hen killing, and creating a physical tag system to reduce over the limit and poaching. Since the commission and TWRA did not act this year, if we do drop to 25,000 spring kill next year, I wholly support more drastic limitations like proposed by the NWTF over my initial proposal of simply delaying season opening by 2 weeks.
 
NWTF is a joke proposing a 3 week season! That would limit hunters including myself to only be able to hunt maybe 4 times every year! Not enough to buy a license! They are missing the boat by not even mentioning the predator aspect of nest succession in respect to predator raiding.
 
TN Whitetail Freak":3t3srsur said:
NWTF is a joke proposing a 3 week season! That would limit hunters including myself to only be able to hunt maybe 4 times every year! Not enough to buy a license! They are missing the boat by not even mentioning the predator aspect of nest succession in respect to predator raiding.
3 week Spring turkey season in the South. What a friggin joke. They need to take that ridiculous Yankee crap back up North ;)
 
Question for scn or anyone else "in the know." Although they changed the season setting process to bi-annual, during the meeting some of the commissioners (particularly Woodson) mentioned addressing the turkey regulations again next year. How difficult is it going to be for the Commission to change regulations during a "between year" if they finally agree that there is a need to do so?
 
I fully support conserving the resource. But I don't want to go to. 3 week season and 1-2 bird limit forever either. I don't know why it's so hard to adjust seasons according to what the population is.

Also don't know why they can't make zones in the turkey hurt areas.

I'm glad they acknowledged they problem, and one of the first big steps is finally protecting hens. I don't care that 700 isn't a lot, but it's a step in the right direction.


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I had just about quit renewing my membership
To the NWTF. Like I was not going to renew it next year. I was tired of all the BS about raising money and such in the magazines, sick of how the show in Nashville was no longer about turkey hunting, it was about them making money and partying and nothing more.

But with those letters of recommendation I may have to go ahead and renew it at least one more year, since they act like they care instead of trying to earn a buck with sink, avian x, and mossy oak all over their magazines.

Finally something about the actual turkey comes out.


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This is becoming a joke. Not doing anything 5 years ago when we told them about the problem to now next year they will do way too much. It simple. It all started going to crap when the limit was raised. Change the limit back to 2 and it will slowly come back. Geez Louise.
 
woodsman04":2s3aaxj7 said:
I had just about quit renewing my membership
To the NWTF. Like I was not going to renew it next year. I was tired of all the BS about raising money and such in the magazines, sick of how the show in Nashville was no longer about turkey hunting, it was about them making money and partying and nothing more.

But with those letters of recommendation I may have to go ahead and renew it at least one more year, since they act like they care instead of trying to earn a buck with sink, avian x, and mossy oak all over their magazines.

Finally something about the actual turkey comes out.


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NWTF actually does a good amount for the state. The good thing is, the more money they raise, the more money goes to conservation. They had a B+ from a couple of nonprofit rating groups. I think their transparency was an a if i remember correctly.


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muddyboots":2psy67d8 said:
This is becoming a joke. Not doing anything 5 years ago when we told them about the problem to now next year they will do way too much. It simple. It all started going to crap when the limit was raised. Change the limit back to 2 and it will slowly come back. Geez Louise.

Seems like commonsense huh? It was going great, they changed it, it's not as good, change it back. Doesn't seem like it would be that hard of a decision, but I know there is more to it than that, but can decreasing the limit by at least one be that difficult?


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TN Whitetail Freak":3swevmkq said:
NWTF is a joke proposing a 3 week season! That would limit hunters including myself to only be able to hunt maybe 4 times every year! Not enough to buy a license! They are missing the boat by not even mentioning the predator aspect of nest succession in respect to predator raiding.
In my opinion after 4 or 5 years of a 3 week season and a 2 bird limit you will only need to hunt about 4 times a year.
 
SEC":3mdt361b said:
TN Whitetail Freak":3mdt361b said:
NWTF is a joke proposing a 3 week season! That would limit hunters including myself to only be able to hunt maybe 4 times every year! Not enough to buy a license! They are missing the boat by not even mentioning the predator aspect of nest succession in respect to predator raiding.
In my opinion after 4 or 5 years of a 3 week season and a 2 bird limit you will only need to hunt about 4 times a year.

Well then i am against that. Who only wants to hunt 4 times a year? I would be broke from going to other states to hunt, my wife would be plum crazy from having me around the house more and i would probably be more productive at work. Those things sound terrible.


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Goodtimekiller":2l1smwa9 said:
SEC":2l1smwa9 said:
TN Whitetail Freak":2l1smwa9 said:
NWTF is a joke proposing a 3 week season! That would limit hunters including myself to only be able to hunt maybe 4 times every year! Not enough to buy a license! They are missing the boat by not even mentioning the predator aspect of nest succession in respect to predator raiding.
In my opinion after 4 or 5 years of a 3 week season and a 2 bird limit you will only need to hunt about 4 times a year.

Well then i am against that. Who only wants to hunt 4 times a year? I would be broke from going to other states to hunt, my wife would be plum crazy from having me around the house more and i would probably be more productive at work. Those things sound terrible.


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What part of Tennessee are you from Goodtimekiller I'm assuming middle TN?
 

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