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I clicked on Tennessee and this is what they said.
Though the trophy potential in Tennessee has improved in recent years, long firearm seasons in the heat of the rut and a three-buck limit per hunter keep many would-be monsters from reaching their potential. Imagine that.
 
SEC said:
I clicked on Tennessee and this is what they said.
Though the trophy potential in Tennessee has improved in recent years, long firearm seasons in the heat of the rut and a three-buck limit per hunter keep many would-be monsters from reaching their potential. Imagine that.

Id say they are right on.
 
The best thing I saw on that link is when you click on TN and scroll down and look at the 175" NT buck you will see our very own "tickweed" from this site.
 
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piffnmo said:
TWRA or the hunters or both?
I have been running two trail camera's since the first of June.I have not gotten a picture of a deer older than 2 1/2 out of 15 different bucks.I cant speak for every one but in my area the buck age structure is very poor.Many hunters hunting for many days= many dead deer.
 
Andy S. said:
SEC said:
I have not gotten a picture of a deer older than 2 1/2 out of 15 different bucks.
How are you accurately aging them this time of year?
I Know the difference between and old deer and a young deer the deer in my photos are young. Short faces spindly racks some of the bigger deer look like there going to be between 80 to 95inches. Mature deer in my area will many times be 115 to 130inches give or take a few.I have seen nothing like that.Because there are few and far between.
 
SEC said:
Andy S. said:
SEC said:
I have not gotten a picture of a deer older than 2 1/2 out of 15 different bucks.
How are you accurately aging them this time of year?
I Know the difference between and old deer and a young deer the deer in my photos are young. Short faces spindly racks some of the bigger deer look like there going to be between 80 to 95inches. Mature deer in my area will many times be 115 to 130inches give or take a few.I have seen nothing like that.Because there are few and far between.
I haven't gotten really any mature deer on my cameras which has never happened before. Most I get are between 1.5 to 3.5
 
Wow, I am not as stupid as everyone on here had me thinking I was.

My concern is not as much for "big bucks" even though one can hope, as much as it is for the LOSS of hunting area and LOSS areas just for deer to live and the increase in the hunting population. Even if the number of hunters doesn't increase significantly, the loss of land is having an effect and will get even worse as time goes on.
 
SEC said:
I Know the difference between and old deer and a young deer the deer in my photos are young. Short faces spindly racks some of the bigger deer look like there going to be between 80 to 95inches. Mature deer in my area will many times be 115 to 130inches give or take a few.I have seen nothing like that.Because there are few and far between.
I was wondering if you were aging based on rack size.
 
SEC said:
I clicked on Tennessee and this is what they said.
Though the trophy potential in Tennessee has improved in recent years, long firearm seasons in the heat of the rut and a three-buck limit per hunter keep many would-be monsters from reaching their potential. Imagine that.

I don't think I will take the advise from a website that was written by someone that has never hunted in the state.
 
SEC said:
I clicked on Tennessee and this is what they said.
Though the trophy potential in Tennessee has improved in recent years, long firearm seasons in the heat of the rut and a three-buck limit per hunter keep many would-be monsters from reaching their potential. Imagine that.


In my opinion, this is true.
 
NateUK said:
SEC said:
I clicked on Tennessee and this is what they said.
Though the trophy potential in Tennessee has improved in recent years, long firearm seasons in the heat of the rut and a three-buck limit per hunter keep many would-be monsters from reaching their potential. Imagine that.


In my opinion, this is true.

I also believe it's true. Whether it's something most Tennessee hunters want to change through regulation is a separate issue. My own personal solution is that I'm going to hunt Kansas for a week in early November.
 
I don't think tennessee should change its regs just to make trophy hunters happy. If you want trophy bucks then manage your own land, or join a lease that manages for big bucks. I thought it was deer hunting, not antler hunting. What about the rest of us that don't care for consistently bigger and older bucks? I hear the older ones don't have as good meat as young ones anyway. Anyway a trophy buck is more of a trophy if they are fewer and farther between..... my 2 cents
 
catman529 said:
I don't think tennessee should change its regs just to make trophy hunters happy. If you want trophy bucks then manage your own land, or join a lease that manages for big bucks. I thought it was deer hunting, not antler hunting. What about the rest of us that don't care for consistently bigger and older bucks? I hear the older ones don't have as good meat as young ones anyway. Anyway a trophy buck is more of a trophy if they are fewer and farther between..... my 2 cents

My sentiments as well.
 
SEC said:
I clicked on Tennessee and this is what they said.
Though the trophy potential in Tennessee has improved in recent years, long firearm seasons in the heat of the rut and a three-buck limit per hunter keep many would-be monsters from reaching their potential. Imagine that.

This makes no sense to me. Since Tennessee and the "trophy states" are producing the same age-class of bucks in general, how is the world can regulations be preventing bucks from reaching their true potential?

That statement shows true lack of understanding.
 
BigGameGuy said:
SEC said:
I clicked on Tennessee and this is what they said.
Though the trophy potential in Tennessee has improved in recent years, long firearm seasons in the heat of the rut and a three-buck limit per hunter keep many would-be monsters from reaching their potential. Imagine that.

This makes no sense to me. Since Tennessee and the "trophy states" are producing the same age-class of bucks in general, how is the world can regulations be preventing bucks from reaching their true potential?

That statement shows true lack of understanding.


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BigGameGuy said:
SEC said:
I clicked on Tennessee and this is what they said.
Though the trophy potential in Tennessee has improved in recent years, long firearm seasons in the heat of the rut and a three-buck limit per hunter keep many would-be monsters from reaching their potential.
This makes no sense to me.
Well, I interpreted or "took" that statement a little differently.
I think the statement alludes to antler "high grading" of the best young bucks. If you think about it in that context, makes perfect sense. Having a very long firearms season coupled with a 3-buck limit creates (via regulations) an environment allowing for much more antler high grading, say, as compared to Kentucky.

Disclaimer:
Not wanting to copy KY's regs and do not want TN to go to a 1-buck limit (like KY). :)
 
Wes Parrish said:
BigGameGuy said:
SEC said:
I clicked on Tennessee and this is what they said.
Though the trophy potential in Tennessee has improved in recent years, long firearm seasons in the heat of the rut and a three-buck limit per hunter keep many would-be monsters from reaching their potential.
This makes no sense to me.
Well, I interpreted or "took" that statement a little differently.
I think the statement alludes to antler "high grading" of the best young bucks. If you think about it in that context, makes perfect sense. Having a very long firearms season coupled with a 3-buck limit creates (via regulations) an environment allowing for much more antler high grading, say, as compared to Kentucky.

Disclaimer:
Not wanting to copy KY's regs and do not want TN to go to a 1-buck limit (like KY). :)
Somewhat agree, and we definitely dont have iron clad data proving we kill the same age class bucks on average as some "Trophy" states. Well we have the data here, just not sure most of theirs is good enough to give a good comparison to go by.
After all, many of these states have the dreaded Telecheck :), which we have been told so often how much this hurts the data retrieval possibilities!!
 
Changing the rules will hurt the true hunters. It's not about the bone it's about getting outdoors and having a good time. If people want 170" 180" bucks than feel free to manage your own farm.
 
Beardendy88 said:
Changing the rules will hurt the true hunters. It's not about the bone it's about getting outdoors and having a good time. If people want 170" 180" bucks than feel free to manage your own farm.


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What happened to enjoying the outdoors and the sport of hunting instead of driving yourself crazy worrying about Trophy Bucks or having it out for the hunters that love the sport and use the meat not just for the huge bucks.

Also, have you saw the number of deer in TN. How many thousands are laying on the sides of the highway each year, the herd is huge in TN young or old deer. Maybe we should start a trophy Doe organization. We can compare the wear on jawbone teeth. I am sure we all could kill a trophy doe or two.

We all like the big boys but they don't eat very well.
 
BigGameGuy said:
SEC said:
I clicked on Tennessee and this is what they said.
Though the trophy potential in Tennessee has improved in recent years, long firearm seasons in the heat of the rut and a three-buck limit per hunter keep many would-be monsters from reaching their potential. Imagine that.

This makes no sense to me. Since Tennessee and the "trophy states" are producing the same age-class of bucks in general, how is the world can regulations be preventing bucks from reaching their true potential?

That statement shows true lack of understanding.

The last time I looked at the data we were about 5 or 6 years behind most mid-west states on the age of bucks killed, % wise. When they stop improving maybe we will catch them.
 
Winchester said:
Wes Parrish said:
BigGameGuy said:
SEC said:
Though the trophy potential in Tennessee has improved in recent years, long firearm seasons in the heat of the rut and a three-buck limit per hunter keep many would-be monsters from reaching their potential.
This makes no sense to me.
Well, I interpreted or "took" that statement a little differently.
I think the statement alludes to antler "high grading" of the best young bucks.
Somewhat agree, and we definitely dont have iron clad data proving we kill the same age class bucks on average as some "Trophy" states. Well we have the data here, just not sure most of theirs is good enough to give a good comparison to go by.
But, to a large degree, this age data is comparing apples to oranges regarding antler high-grading, which is all about WHICH bucks among an age class to kill or let walk. To my knowledge, no state game agency is keeping any type record to see if different regs, much less different states, have more or less antler high-grading.

Beardendy88 said:
Changing the rules will hurt the true hunters. It's not about the bone it's about getting outdoors and having a good time. If people want 170" 180" bucks than feel free to manage your own farm.
Wasn't particularly talking about changing any rules myself, but rule changes seldom cause much harm on true hunters, since the rules themselves tend to be more directed at novices. By the way, if it's not about the bone to you, how about getting outdoors and having a good time, squirrel hunting during deer season? :) Truth is, getting outdoors and having a good time need not involve deer hunting, but when it does, something about the bone plays into that choice for most deer hunters ---- just a matter of to what degree.
 
NateUK said:
SEC said:
I clicked on Tennessee and this is what they said.
Though the trophy potential in Tennessee has improved in recent years, long firearm seasons in the heat of the rut and a three-buck limit per hunter keep many would-be monsters from reaching their potential. Imagine that.


In my opinion, this is true.

Same here. County harvest data in my county is usually around 90% harvested 2.5 or less. I dont ever see nothing past 2.5 on any of my farms. This years trail cam pics are no different.
 
If I had to guess less than 10% of bucks killed in tn are 3+ yrs old. And the majority of "big" bucks killed are 2.5 yrs old and range from 90-110"..
 

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