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<blockquote data-quote="TheLBLman" data-source="post: 5824849" data-attributes="member: 1409"><p>But do you know the circumstances under which the idea of TN to have this "trophy" velvet buck hunt originated? Who came up with it?</p><p></p><p>Below is how I understand it, please correct me if I'm wrong.</p><p></p><p>One of the then commissioners wanted to start selling (<u>mainly to non-residents</u> of TN) guided trophy buck hunts on his extensive TN property. TN could not and cannot compete in antler scores with nearby states like KY & IL, therefore the cost of such hunts would be much less than a guided hunt in any "trophy destination state".</p><p></p><p>The idea of creating a new type of "trophy" was spawned. By having a summertime hunt for "trophy velvet" bucks, this would allow TN to offer something "different" than most "trophy destination" states, therefore, ability to run the price up for these guided hunts. How many states then or now, allow any deer hunting in August?</p><p></p><p>To dive deeper, why do you think the summertime trophy velvet hunts were not allowed on public lands?</p><p></p><p>Truth is, the idea of creating a summertime deer hunt was much more about increasing non-resident license sales in TN, and creating a new market for some large landowners (and/or leases) wanting to sell these unique trophy hunts to non-residents?</p><p></p><p>So again, It's not that I'm losing sleep over it, but believe the overall negatives outweigh the positives to the resident sportsmen of Tennessee, and the future of hunting in general (not just deer hunting). I suspect for every trophy velvet buck hunter afield the last weekend of August, there will be some juvenile squirrel hunter's parent not letting their child hunt this same weekend (opening of squirrel season), for the sole reason of avoiding conflict with deer hunters.</p><p></p><p>We need to be increasing the number of lifetime hunters (not just deer hunters, but hunters), to help insure the future of hunting as we have known it, and would like for it to continue. This has been best accomplished better by starting hunters out with small game more than big game. Squirrel hunting has been one of the best ways. The trophy velvet hunt displaces some of the juvenile squirrel hunting, whether the reasoning is real or perceived, still is happening.</p><p></p><p>I'm not at all opposed to non-residents being able to hunt in TN. Just don't see how purposefully trying to bring more non-resident hunters in via a summer-time deer hunt helps TN's <u>resident</u> deer hunters. More competition for a shrinking acreage of huntable lands? Higher lease prices?</p><p></p><p>Part of the original thought was if we can sell them a non-resident license in August, they'll come back to hunt during the regular deer season as well. More license revenue benefits TWRA, and having more tourist hunters come to TN is seen as an economic benefit to many. But to what extent does it benefit the resident hunters of TN?</p><p></p><p>Fortunately or unfortunately, the deer hunting world has not embraced the idea of summertime deer hunting to the extent expected by the commissioner pushing it?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="TheLBLman, post: 5824849, member: 1409"] But do you know the circumstances under which the idea of TN to have this "trophy" velvet buck hunt originated? Who came up with it? Below is how I understand it, please correct me if I'm wrong. One of the then commissioners wanted to start selling ([U]mainly to non-residents[/U] of TN) guided trophy buck hunts on his extensive TN property. TN could not and cannot compete in antler scores with nearby states like KY & IL, therefore the cost of such hunts would be much less than a guided hunt in any "trophy destination state". The idea of creating a new type of "trophy" was spawned. By having a summertime hunt for "trophy velvet" bucks, this would allow TN to offer something "different" than most "trophy destination" states, therefore, ability to run the price up for these guided hunts. How many states then or now, allow any deer hunting in August? To dive deeper, why do you think the summertime trophy velvet hunts were not allowed on public lands? Truth is, the idea of creating a summertime deer hunt was much more about increasing non-resident license sales in TN, and creating a new market for some large landowners (and/or leases) wanting to sell these unique trophy hunts to non-residents? So again, It's not that I'm losing sleep over it, but believe the overall negatives outweigh the positives to the resident sportsmen of Tennessee, and the future of hunting in general (not just deer hunting). I suspect for every trophy velvet buck hunter afield the last weekend of August, there will be some juvenile squirrel hunter's parent not letting their child hunt this same weekend (opening of squirrel season), for the sole reason of avoiding conflict with deer hunters. We need to be increasing the number of lifetime hunters (not just deer hunters, but hunters), to help insure the future of hunting as we have known it, and would like for it to continue. This has been best accomplished better by starting hunters out with small game more than big game. Squirrel hunting has been one of the best ways. The trophy velvet hunt displaces some of the juvenile squirrel hunting, whether the reasoning is real or perceived, still is happening. I'm not at all opposed to non-residents being able to hunt in TN. Just don't see how purposefully trying to bring more non-resident hunters in via a summer-time deer hunt helps TN's [U]resident[/U] deer hunters. More competition for a shrinking acreage of huntable lands? Higher lease prices? Part of the original thought was if we can sell them a non-resident license in August, they'll come back to hunt during the regular deer season as well. More license revenue benefits TWRA, and having more tourist hunters come to TN is seen as an economic benefit to many. But to what extent does it benefit the resident hunters of TN? Fortunately or unfortunately, the deer hunting world has not embraced the idea of summertime deer hunting to the extent expected by the commissioner pushing it? [/QUOTE]
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