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<blockquote data-quote="Ski" data-source="post: 5824571" data-attributes="member: 20583"><p>I don't agree with that at all. I don't see it. That's why I asked about factual statistics. If there are that many poachers then there should be a paper trail to prove it. Until I see that I'm going to have a very, very hard time believing it just because somebody on the internet says so. </p><p></p><p>What is it about the number of participants that bothers you so much? Nobody is taking anything away from you. Nobody is getting extra or special benefits. Just because you aren't interested in claiming that benefit doesn't mean it isn't available to you. It is. The opportunity is there same for you as it is for me. Tough cookies if I get to that buck before you do because I was willing to endure the heat & bugs while you enjoyed the comfort of air conditioning. Crying about it doesn't make it wrong. You're literally saying it's unfair that I'm allowed to go out in the miserable summer and kill that buck with a bow before you can kill him with a gun when the weather is not so uncomfortable. You're assigning superiority to your wants and your style over mine and broad brush painting everybody else as a poacher to justify it. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>As long as humans have hunted deer, antlers have been a trophy. Pretend to be something you're not if you feel you must but don't expect me to. I'm comfortable being what I am. And I owe no explanation to anybody who wants to look down on me without fully understanding who or what I am. It's not and never has been a hunter's job or place to provide a service of population control. Contract killers fill that role. The rest of us are sportsman who pay an entity to manage the habitat and wildlife for us to enjoy. We don't work for them. They work for us. </p><p></p><p>I'm not sorry for being a trophy hunter. I'm not ashamed. I'm not going to pretend I'm doing it for any other reason. And I'm not the problem. The problem is all the wussies who fold over when the wind blows so they try painting hunting in some bullsh!t fake image thinking they can fool the anti-hunters into accepting us. The anti-hunting crowd in large is never going to accept hunting under any circumstances. They don't eat meat. They don't like livestock farming. They don't like logging. They don't like carbon fuels. They don't like anything at all that I'm aware of. They protest progress but call themselves progressives. And that's the lunatics you're afraid of? I'm not. Hunting isn't going anywhere and the velvet trophy hunt isn't doing anything to harm hunting's image and certainly isn't hurting other hunters. Don't cry that trophy hunting paints us in a bad light but in the same breath cry that me velvet hunting robs you of a trophy because you weren't ready to hunt yet. Can't have it both ways.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ski, post: 5824571, member: 20583"] I don't agree with that at all. I don't see it. That's why I asked about factual statistics. If there are that many poachers then there should be a paper trail to prove it. Until I see that I'm going to have a very, very hard time believing it just because somebody on the internet says so. What is it about the number of participants that bothers you so much? Nobody is taking anything away from you. Nobody is getting extra or special benefits. Just because you aren't interested in claiming that benefit doesn't mean it isn't available to you. It is. The opportunity is there same for you as it is for me. Tough cookies if I get to that buck before you do because I was willing to endure the heat & bugs while you enjoyed the comfort of air conditioning. Crying about it doesn't make it wrong. You're literally saying it's unfair that I'm allowed to go out in the miserable summer and kill that buck with a bow before you can kill him with a gun when the weather is not so uncomfortable. You're assigning superiority to your wants and your style over mine and broad brush painting everybody else as a poacher to justify it. As long as humans have hunted deer, antlers have been a trophy. Pretend to be something you're not if you feel you must but don't expect me to. I'm comfortable being what I am. And I owe no explanation to anybody who wants to look down on me without fully understanding who or what I am. It's not and never has been a hunter's job or place to provide a service of population control. Contract killers fill that role. The rest of us are sportsman who pay an entity to manage the habitat and wildlife for us to enjoy. We don't work for them. They work for us. I'm not sorry for being a trophy hunter. I'm not ashamed. I'm not going to pretend I'm doing it for any other reason. And I'm not the problem. The problem is all the wussies who fold over when the wind blows so they try painting hunting in some bullsh!t fake image thinking they can fool the anti-hunters into accepting us. The anti-hunting crowd in large is never going to accept hunting under any circumstances. They don't eat meat. They don't like livestock farming. They don't like logging. They don't like carbon fuels. They don't like anything at all that I'm aware of. They protest progress but call themselves progressives. And that's the lunatics you're afraid of? I'm not. Hunting isn't going anywhere and the velvet trophy hunt isn't doing anything to harm hunting's image and certainly isn't hurting other hunters. Don't cry that trophy hunting paints us in a bad light but in the same breath cry that me velvet hunting robs you of a trophy because you weren't ready to hunt yet. Can't have it both ways. [/QUOTE]
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