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Andy S.":36ym8545 said:
His big ham reminds of a 3.5 buck.
i agree Andy but in the same sense his lack of depth and musculature in the front half of his body makes me think of a 2.5 YO...Id be comfortable at this point calling him a 2.5+ but come fall he could fill out and easily lean more towards a 3.5YO. If he is a 2.5 YO he has great genetic potential!!!! Love to see that deer in a couple more years


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tree_ghost":24a59c0l said:
Andy S.":24a59c0l said:
His big ham reminds of a 3.5 buck.
i agree Andy but in the same sense his lack of depth and musculature in the front half of his body makes me think of a 2.5 YO...Id be comfortable at this point calling him a 2.5+ but come fall he could fill out and easily lean more towards a 3.5YO. If he is a 2.5 YO he has great genetic potential!!!! Love to see that deer in a couple more years.
His "hams" are accentuated by his posture and where he is standing. Note how much higher the ground is where his hind legs are standing.

Not saying he couldn't be 3 1/2, but my best guess (just based on this one pic) is 2 1/2.
 
TheLBLman":1y6mlyve said:
His "hams" are accentuated by his posture and where he is standing. Note how much higher the ground is where his hind legs are standing.
Agree about the position, but not convinced his stance is making them look any bigger. I see the 2.5 in his front end, but if I had to bet my paycheck, it'd be on 3.5. I suspect his front end will fill out this fall to match his rear end, thus making him appear more like a 3.5.
 
Andy S.":1wx2gw5k said:
TheLBLman":1wx2gw5k said:
His "hams" are accentuated by his posture and where he is standing. Note how much higher the ground is where his hind legs are standing.
Agree about the position, but not convinced his stance is making them look any bigger. I see the 2.5 in his front end, but if I had to bet my paycheck, it'd be on 3.5. I suspect his front end will fill out this fall to match his rear end, thus making him appear more like a 3.5.
Question...I know that bucks put on significant mass in their shoulders and neck but does anyone know whether or not the brisket gets larger? I don't think that it does as I've always been taught that the brisket is an excellent indicator of a deers age in the summer however if they have significant growth guring the rut then maybe I've been taught incorrectly...?

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Front half says 2.5 and the back half says 3.5. Since it is a summer time pic, I'm going with 3.5.
 
tree_ghost":2uwcg8mm said:
Question...I know that bucks put on significant mass in their shoulders and neck but does anyone know whether or not the brisket gets larger? I don't think that it does as I've always been taught that the brisket is an excellent indicator of a deers age in the summer however if they have significant growth guring the rut then maybe I've been taught incorrectly...?
From my experience, a deep pointed brisket (bone protruding down at an angle) can be an indicator of a mature buck, especially during the summer months when it is so hard to put an accurate age on one. With that said, you have to look at the sum of the parts to make a best guess.
 
Andy S.":2c72fatf said:
. . . . . you have to look at the sum of the parts to make a best guess.
I'll even include, as just one or two more pieces in a 20-piece puzzle, the antler characteristics of mass and main beam length (ignore the number of points, ignore tine length). However, there is a tendency to assume more mass than exists because the velvet creates an illusion of excessive mass.

I downplay these antler characteristics in the fall, and even in the summer if can get pics from several angles. But sometimes, you have but a single pic from one angle, so use all the "clues" that present in trying to "guess" the age. Just remember that while these may be high-correlation generalities, some mature bucks have little mass, some are only spike bucks, while some young bucks have it all.
 
Here is a deer that fits that criteria this buck on the left is a big mature buck that sports a cowhorn on one side and a fork on the other. I'll be spending a tag on him this fall given the opportunity. He's my #2 hitlist buck but would more than likely be passed over by most hunters IMO

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tree_ghost":1g707j78 said:
Here is a deer that fits that criteria this buck on the left is a big mature buck that sports a cowhorn on one side and a fork on the other.
But note he still has significant "mass" on that cowhorn, particularly as compared to the younger buck.
 
Would think that one is a 2.5 year old. Have to look at how he is standing. The downhill angle his body is at gives a false impression he is deeper in the back end than he really is. Has pretty awesome potential if in fact he is only 2.5.
 
backyardtndeer":2069lg3y said:
Has pretty awesome potential if in fact he is only 2.5.
Depends on the area as to how common a 2 1/2 with antlers similar to those occurs.
In most areas of Tennessee, this one is above average (for a 2 1/2), but not unusual. His antlers will look more like a 2 1/2's once the velvet comes off, and I'd guess his outside spread to be between 13 1/2 and 14 1/2 inches.
 

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