i agree Andy but in the same sense his lack of depth and musculature in the front half of his body makes me think of a 2.5 YO...Id be comfortable at this point calling him a 2.5+ but come fall he could fill out and easily lean more towards a 3.5YO. If he is a 2.5 YO he has great genetic potential!!!! Love to see that deer in a couple more yearsAndy S.":36ym8545 said:His big ham reminds of a 3.5 buck.
His "hams" are accentuated by his posture and where he is standing. Note how much higher the ground is where his hind legs are standing.tree_ghost":24a59c0l said:i agree Andy but in the same sense his lack of depth and musculature in the front half of his body makes me think of a 2.5 YO...Id be comfortable at this point calling him a 2.5+ but come fall he could fill out and easily lean more towards a 3.5YO. If he is a 2.5 YO he has great genetic potential!!!! Love to see that deer in a couple more years.Andy S.":24a59c0l said:His big ham reminds of a 3.5 buck.
Agree about the position, but not convinced his stance is making them look any bigger. I see the 2.5 in his front end, but if I had to bet my paycheck, it'd be on 3.5. I suspect his front end will fill out this fall to match his rear end, thus making him appear more like a 3.5.TheLBLman":1y6mlyve said:His "hams" are accentuated by his posture and where he is standing. Note how much higher the ground is where his hind legs are standing.
Question...I know that bucks put on significant mass in their shoulders and neck but does anyone know whether or not the brisket gets larger? I don't think that it does as I've always been taught that the brisket is an excellent indicator of a deers age in the summer however if they have significant growth guring the rut then maybe I've been taught incorrectly...?Andy S.":1wx2gw5k said:Agree about the position, but not convinced his stance is making them look any bigger. I see the 2.5 in his front end, but if I had to bet my paycheck, it'd be on 3.5. I suspect his front end will fill out this fall to match his rear end, thus making him appear more like a 3.5.TheLBLman":1wx2gw5k said:His "hams" are accentuated by his posture and where he is standing. Note how much higher the ground is where his hind legs are standing.
Can't really see much detail regarding these two in this latest pic, but is that buck on the left the same buck as in your 1st pic, or his he a different one?RiverRat213":1walrx67 said:Here are two more for you to gander at.
Agree, and he would be the only one I was focused on as long as he stayed around come Oct/Nov.TheLBLman":2w8jcxf7 said:The one on the right appears mature.
From my experience, a deep pointed brisket (bone protruding down at an angle) can be an indicator of a mature buck, especially during the summer months when it is so hard to put an accurate age on one. With that said, you have to look at the sum of the parts to make a best guess.tree_ghost":2uwcg8mm said:Question...I know that bucks put on significant mass in their shoulders and neck but does anyone know whether or not the brisket gets larger? I don't think that it does as I've always been taught that the brisket is an excellent indicator of a deers age in the summer however if they have significant growth guring the rut then maybe I've been taught incorrectly...?
I'll even include, as just one or two more pieces in a 20-piece puzzle, the antler characteristics of mass and main beam length (ignore the number of points, ignore tine length). However, there is a tendency to assume more mass than exists because the velvet creates an illusion of excessive mass.Andy S.":2c72fatf said:. . . . . you have to look at the sum of the parts to make a best guess.
But note he still has significant "mass" on that cowhorn, particularly as compared to the younger buck.tree_ghost":1g707j78 said:Here is a deer that fits that criteria this buck on the left is a big mature buck that sports a cowhorn on one side and a fork on the other.
Depends on the area as to how common a 2 1/2 with antlers similar to those occurs.backyardtndeer":2069lg3y said:Has pretty awesome potential if in fact he is only 2.5.