I bought a 24" from Bear Creek, I have only shot it about 10 times so not got a good feel on it yet, at about 65y it will kill deer, same hole about 40-45y but be a bit before I can get somewhere to shoot at distance, it works well, bought the 416r stainless barrel with side charge, hate trying to rack a round in with the normal top handle. Pretty neat seeing the impact when you shoot.