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Over the years, i've planted just about every seed available on the market for food plots. And,.. most only will receive a soild 3 star and the good stuff a 4 star rating in my food plot journal. The only 5 star rating over the years i have even noted is buck forage oats with tecomate chicory a 4 3/4 star. I've enjoyed test plotting with different seed and seeing my results and making notes from browse preference, terrain tolerance, and overall growth and production in my plots. Well, i have found my 5 star and can honestly say,.. i am 100 percent satisfied with the total results produced.
The seeds that get my 5 star rating are apache arrowleaf clover and contea crimson clover.
Contea crimson was developed in italy. The major improvements in this variety is it develops a much deeper rooting system over the other varieties. Thus,.. making it more adapted to upland or drier areas. Plus,.. this variety of crimson yeilds more tonnage per acre from its better rooting system and its larger leaf size. It is also more freeze tolerate.
Apache arrowleaf was developed thru Texas A@M university. The main difference between this and the other varieties is the disease resistence. For those who have planted arrowleaf in a companion crop with crimson and witnessed the clover going into a yellowish wilt knows all about the disease in the some varieties. This disease that affects the root system will hold back production drastically reducing the amount of forage produced. Another great aspect to apache is it has twice the leaf size over the other varieties of arrowleaf on the market. Making for twice the amount of forage produced.
The pic below was took at the end of october. The plot was planted labor day weekend. Keep in consideration. Cannon co was in exceptional drought, only recorded 2 inches of rain total in that time frame. Also,.. zero mast crop in this area. Local habitat and food plots are the only food source. Production is great considering all the factors against it. The plot also maintained this same height and production thru the winter months. Were most of the time,.. my plots are dirt!!
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And these are the pics as of april 12th. My production is twice as good as in years past for this plot in april. The plot is still undergoing heavy grazing,.. but still outproducing every other planting i have ever put forth. AND,. cannon co. is still listed under extreme drought conditions even though the rainfall is back in average for our monthly totals. The overall production in this plot says alot about the quality of seed that i purchased. I will be using these varieties in my plots as long as i am food plotting in the future. In my opinion ,.. and from my testing in that ridgetop plot,.. there is nothing that can outperform its forage production, its browse tolerance, its high preference, and its ability to perform under drastic weather and terrain conditions.
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For those of you newcomers to food plotting. Crimson and arrowleaf are annual clovers. They will produce from september(planting time) til late may (crimson) or late june (arrowleaf). It produces high amount of seed,. making them available for a follow up crop when disced over the following spetember. In the downtime(july and august), a cutting and then a overseeding of buckwheat will fill this gap. Making the plot area a year round food source!! I strongly feel this method is the most cost effective way to food plot and be productive and successful.
 
For a photo comparison ,.. the pic below is from last year at the end of april. The varieties is yuchi arrowleaf and dixie resseeding clover. I'm not saying there is anything wrong with these varieties,.. but you can visually see that the apache and the contea is yeilding much more forage and is much larger is leaf size over the others.
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I also love annual clovers, Because I have limited fields I'll also add to the list MT.barker sub-clover, it will grow where there is practically no sunlight and is instrumental in areas we have it planted in, wooden roads, pine rows, etc.
 
hard county said:
I also love annual clovers, Because I have limited fields I'll also add to the list MT.barker sub-clover, it will grow where there is practically no sunlight and is instrumental in areas we have it planted in, wooden roads, pine rows, etc.

hard county,.. i tried sub clover in one of logging road plots in a bottom and my production was so low i couldn't keep it from being out competed by grasses. The drought tolerance was terrible on it also. I've actually started using red clover (biennial) in that spot and it performs well considering the lower light. My forage production from the red clover is triple what i can get from the sub clover also. How are you maintaining the sub clover so it don't get took over ?
 
Well, in the heavily wooded roads, theres lime and fertilizer, but honestly the stuff never gets over 4 inches high and it has to be sprayed (not mowed) twice a year.
The best use I've found is in planted pine rows where there is no other grass and no leaves to ever worry with in these areas it is virtually maintenance free.
Great looking plots, I believe the clover on my place may look better this year than it ever has.
In the areas I have the subclover planted in there is virtually no sun hitting the ground and no other existing vegetation, maybe thats the secret, I have not found an area I felt was too shady for it.
 
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deerchaser, would you mind giving your mix and where you buy the seed at? I would imagine our soil and conditions are much the same. I am having my plots cleared right now and will be planting in the fall. Thanks alot.
 
steven stone said:
deerchaser, would you mind giving your mix and where you buy the seed at? I would imagine our soil and conditions are much the same. I am having my plots cleared right now and will be planting in the fall. Thanks alot.

In that plot..
15 lbs contea crimson
5 lbs apache arrowleaf
5 lbs DER
50 lb oats
Next year i'm gonna change it up alittle..
50 lb buck forage oats
10 lbs contea crimson
10 lbs apache arrowleaf
3 lbs DER
1 lb chicory

The apache arrowleaf can be purchased thru cooperseed.com , but the contea crimson i can't say for sure. You might google it and see if there is a source on the web, but other than that,.. i don't know. I'm hoping my source will be able to get me some next planting also!! The oats and DER can be purchased at a co op or on line also.

If you are clearing now,. i'm assuming you will be preping the soil soon also. I highly recommend a summer planting of buckwheat to help build the sioil before your fall planting. IT really helps,. especially when followed up with clovers.
 
Yes sir I am planning on throwing the buckwheat to it just as soon as its done. I looked on cooper and found the apache arrowleaf then ran out of time to find contea crimson but Im searching right now. Thanks
 
Marion deer hunter said:
how many acres does that plant?

50 lbs oats
15 lbs crimson
5 lb arrowleaf
5 lb DER

or the..
50 lb oats
10 lbs crimson
10 lbs arrowleaf
3 lbs DER 1 lb chicory

is for 1 acre planting. The more acres,. you simply double each in pounds of each.
 
Deerchaser/Stone, I am having trouble locating the contea, if you find a dealer let me know. Also what was the predominant clover of the two that you planted in those pics.
 
warrent423 said:
Deerchaser/Stone, I am having trouble locating the contea, if you find a dealer let me know. Also what was the predominant clover of the two that you planted in those pics.

In the pic ,. thats 15 lbs of the crimson and 5 lbs of the arrowleaf.

I have searched it myself,.. and the only place i can find anything is seeddistributors.com. You may be able to contact them and find out were to get it.
 
DC007,

My crimson clover & plot spike oats look great. What is the best way to get them to re-seed? Last year the deer were using it heavily until I mowed, sprayed and disced.
Thanks,

Jim
 
If you dont over seed for more browse hit the field with round up about late July first of Aug and you will have one He** of a dove hunt.
 
Excellent Post! I look forward to trying this out in the fall. Deerchaser, what is the size of the plot for your mix?

Steven, could you let me know if you find a source for the contea crimson. Thanks.
 
STEELMAN said:
DC007,

My crimson clover & plot spike oats look great. What is the best way to get them to re-seed? Last year the deer were using it heavily until I mowed, sprayed and disced.
Thanks,

Jim

crimson and oats will be completely dead by the end of may or the first of june. If you are looking for reseeding for the following fall ,.. when its dead ,.. mow it down. You can overseed the area in buckwheat,. but do not turn the ground. Then,. in september, mow the buckwheat and disc the plot under. The buckwheat and the clover will reseed. I recommend overseeding in more oats,. oats do not reseed to well. Also,.. throw in the arrowleaf clover. Arrowleaf will last til the first or middle of july. This gives you another month of forage and you can still go in and mow it down in july and overseed in buckwheat. Then,.. the arrowleaf, the crimson, and the buckwheat will reseed for another crop.

I still like to throw in extra seeds even if i'm attempting a reseed. It will help fill the gaps.
 

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