We tried them in a 20 ga.Remington 870 youth, and was not as pleased as the 12 gauge version. Still prefer the Hevi 13 #7 or Federal Heavyweight #7. I am anxiously awaiting the Federal TSS #9. If the stars line up just right I`ll be handloading TSS soon. I`d hate to spend the money for handloading, if the Federals TSS shoot 20% better than last years heavier than lead. I`d be happy with factory fodder.