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<blockquote data-quote="TheLBLman" data-source="post: 5838114" data-attributes="member: 1409"><p>Your are 1,000 percent correct for head/neck shots, which imo are the most ethical shots to take, and take only, plus the only way you prevent having shot up breasts. I eat my birds, don't want pellets in the breast.</p><p></p><p>Some have brought up the issue of "thumping" vs "dropping".</p><p>Some hunters want to see a bird knocked off his feet <em>(THUMPED HIM!).</em></p><p>I'm happy just seeing them drop dead in place, which is more commonly what happens with TSS head/neck shots.</p><p></p><p>#5 lead loads "thump" better because they they tend to "knock" more than "penetrate" compared to smaller diameter TSS (like TSS #9). Lead also "flattens" on impact (<u>imparting</u> more kinetic energy onto the turkey) whereas TSS is much harder, just zips thru faster without the "drag" of a distorted pellet.</p><p></p><p>It's irrelevant that both #5 lead and #9 TSS completely penetrate a turkey's head at 40-plus yds. The turkey dies either way, assuming at least 1 pellet hits the brain or spinal column. Those odds increase with a denser pattern, irrelevant whether lead or TSS. It's just that denser patterns can be had with TSS, and have enough energy to completely pass thru a turkey at greater ranges than can lead.</p><p></p><p>Think of the difference between shooting a hanging piece of paper at 40 yds with #9 birdshot,</p><p>compared to hitting that hanging piece of paper with a baseball bat. One hardly moves the piece of paper, the other<em> "knocks"</em> it.</p><p></p><p>So some turkey hunters have this erroneous assumption that lead is better for killing turkeys because it "thumps" them better.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="TheLBLman, post: 5838114, member: 1409"] Your are 1,000 percent correct for head/neck shots, which imo are the most ethical shots to take, and take only, plus the only way you prevent having shot up breasts. I eat my birds, don't want pellets in the breast. Some have brought up the issue of "thumping" vs "dropping". Some hunters want to see a bird knocked off his feet [I](THUMPED HIM!).[/I] I'm happy just seeing them drop dead in place, which is more commonly what happens with TSS head/neck shots. #5 lead loads "thump" better because they they tend to "knock" more than "penetrate" compared to smaller diameter TSS (like TSS #9). Lead also "flattens" on impact ([U]imparting[/U] more kinetic energy onto the turkey) whereas TSS is much harder, just zips thru faster without the "drag" of a distorted pellet. It's irrelevant that both #5 lead and #9 TSS completely penetrate a turkey's head at 40-plus yds. The turkey dies either way, assuming at least 1 pellet hits the brain or spinal column. Those odds increase with a denser pattern, irrelevant whether lead or TSS. It's just that denser patterns can be had with TSS, and have enough energy to completely pass thru a turkey at greater ranges than can lead. Think of the difference between shooting a hanging piece of paper at 40 yds with #9 birdshot, compared to hitting that hanging piece of paper with a baseball bat. One hardly moves the piece of paper, the other[I] "knocks"[/I] it. So some turkey hunters have this erroneous assumption that lead is better for killing turkeys because it "thumps" them better. [/QUOTE]
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