Huh? Say it ain’t so

Bamamonts said:

I have no love for Tennessee but that was a great letter in response to the investigation. She sent that before the NCAA had contacted Tennessee. Sticking the her guns. I like it. I have no love for the NCAA either.
Bama has been screwed by them also.

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She sent it Monday and to try and get the public on their side the NCAA let some of their media contacts leak it. Tn in return immediately released that latter to the public to see. The very next day they filed suit with Virginia against the NCAA. That suit has been in the works for weeks just waiting for the next time the NCAA tried to overreach. This was a planned tactical response and strike from UT. They are ahead of the NCAA on this. It's a 20 page suit that's gonna take almost all of the NCAA's teeth out of their bite concerning governing schools. It's most likely the end of the majority of their power and they did it to their selves

prstide said:

Who owned the private plane? Seriously doubt these people did. Look at the bio.

Athlete and brand partnerships where everyone wins - Spyre Sports

Spyre Sports Group is a sports marketing and media agency located in Knoxville, Tennessee, led by sports marketing veterans James Clawson, Hunter Baddour and

www.spyresports.com

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Currently, Spyre is the only collective that hasn't either missed or been late with a payment to any of the athletes they are associated with.
Also, it didn't matter who owns the plane if Nico paid for it. Don't be surprised if there is a paper trail to prove it.

wayne said:

Currently, Spyre is the only collective that hasn't either missed or been late with a payment to any of the athletes they are associated with.
Also, it didn't matter who owns the plane if Nico paid for it. Don't be surprised if there is a paper trail to prove it.

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Yeah I know tons of high school seniors who rent private planes to go on recruiting visits. Totally common. If he cashed a check before he signs it's still a violation.

prstide said:

Yeah I know tons of high school seniors who rent private planes to go on recruiting visits. Totally common. If he cashed a check before he signs it's still a violation.

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Not in the state of California. Same as high school athletes in Missouri are able to be paid before they enroll in college.

prstide said:

Yeah I know tons of high school seniors who rent private planes to go on recruiting visits. Totally common. If he cashed a check before he signs it's still a violation.

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I really don't think you understand the situation at all, and have zero comprehension of the laws surrounding it.

Under California law, he is fully able to sign a NIL agreement and cash as many checks as he gets. The issues surrounding the NIL has already made it to the US Supreme Court who sided against the NCAA in a 9-0 ruling.

But, keep hoping.

Also, Nico is paid by Spyre. His NIL deal wasn't contingent on him signing with Tennessee.
Spyre would be on the hook for whatever agreed upon amount if Nico had signed with So Cal., Oregon or Tennessee.

I know this thread was meant to poke fun at UT, but from what I've read, most of college football is backing UT on this fight. NCAA poked the wrong bear time.

The lady that wrote that response is getting High Praise around the college football world

No one cares if Nico took $ or a airplane ride in today's college football.

PillsburyDoughboy said:

Well maybe maybe not. But where there is smoke there is usually fire.

With vols being on probation and now facing possible level 1 or 2 violations again. You gotta wonder if vols will play the same game as before. Remove themselves from the players, coaches and ADs that caused the infractions in order to avoid some sort of post season ban or realize their goose is cooked this time and just fight it head on and let the chips fall where they may?

Doubt the program can afford to lose another AD, head coach and a QB who seems to be at the head of all of this.

I'll be here for the popcorn.

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you are really special !!! Go get your popcorn in a bammer forum!!!! iv said it enough and you wont reply to my comments !!! WE DONT CARE WHAT YOU HAVE TO SAY!!!!

scn said:

I really don't think you understand the situation at all, and have zero comprehension of the laws surrounding it.

Under California law, he is fully able to sign a NIL agreement and cash as many checks as he gets. The issues surrounding the NIL has already made it to the US Supreme Court who sided against the NCAA in a 9-0 ruling.

But, keep hoping.

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I have full comprehension and totally understand the laws surrounding it. It's called a "sham" or "simulated" contract.
The statements and contract are made out to look like it's just a neutral NIL deal, when in fact Spyre is fully-coordinated with Tennessee football and the deal was absolutely contingent-in-fact on him attending Tennessee.
Just because you put magic words in a contract and say you're paying John Doe $7mil for his perceived success as a neutral entity, but not as a bribe, doesn't make it not a bribe.

wayne said:

Also, Nico is paid by Spyre. His NIL deal wasn't contingent on him signing with Tennessee.
Spyre would be on the hook for whatever agreed upon amount if Nico had signed with So Cal., Oregon or Tennessee.

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Do you have a list of all the non-Tennessee players that Spyre currently represents? Or maybe if he didn't sign they would say "oh well we are governed by Tennessee laws so the contract is null and void."

prstide said:

I have full comprehension and totally understand the laws surrounding it. It's called a "sham" or "simulated" contract.
The statements and contract are made out to look like it's just a neutral NIL deal, when in fact Spyre is fully-coordinated with Tennessee football and the deal was absolutely contingent-in-fact on him attending Tennessee.
Just because you put magic words in a contract and say you're paying John Doe $7mil for his perceived success as a neutral entity, but not as a bribe, doesn't make it not a bribe.

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Wrong again.

The lawyer for Spyre has already put in writing that his NIL contract had zero to do with him attending the university of TN. It was valid for whatever school he chose.

scn said:

I really don't think you understand the situation at all, and have zero comprehension of the laws surrounding it.

Under California law, he is fully able to sign a NIL agreement and cash as many checks as he gets. The issues surrounding the NIL has already made it to the US Supreme Court who sided against the NCAA in a 9-0 ruling.

But, keep hoping.

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Also, the NIL is not a means of inducement for a player to sign. If Spyre wasn't based in Knoxville and the gears behind the official UT collective this might be more believable. Come on though…..I stand firm in saying the NCAA is at fault for not having clear guidelines in place prior to opening Pandora's box but some schools took it a bit far and it all needs to be reigned in before it ruins college football anymore than it already has.

scn said:

Wrong again.

The lawyer for Spyre has already put in writing that his NIL contract had zero to do with him attending the university of TN. It was valid for whatever school he chose.

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VFLs currently:


Spyre is playing spin control trying to keep their @$$es from getting burnt

prstide said:

VFLs currently:

Spyre is playing spin control trying to keep their @$$es from getting burnt

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You are just butthurt because NIL ran your HOF coach off. Suddenly all of the things Bama has done for decades illegally under the table were negated by the NIL. Those little red chargers don't mean quite as much now, do they?

scn said:

You are just butthurt because NIL ran your HOF coach off. Suddenly all of the things Bama has done for decades illegally under the table were negated by the NIL. Those little red chargers don't mean quite as much now, do they?

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Hahaha! It's funny watching UT fans squirm because y'all all already know the allegations are legitimate but hopeful lawyering up will save the hope of UT actually winning something meaningful this season.
If Alabama never won another game I could die happy and still have been in attendance to see more national championship trophies hoisted by the Tide than UT has won in the football program's entire existence.

prstide said:

Hahaha! It's funny watching UT fans squirm because y'all all already know the allegations are legitimate but hopeful lawyering up will save the hope of UT actually winning something meaningful this season.
If Alabama never won another game I could die happy and still have been in attendance to see more national championship trophies hoisted by the Tide than UT has won in the football program's entire existence.

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Notice you didn't reference the decades of Bama violations. It really must suck when the NIL levels the playing field with the cheaters.

I squirmed a little on the Gump deal last year because I knew we were in the wrong. I've talked to a couple of folks that have some ties to the inner circle and have zero worries about this round. I am pretty sure it will end up worse for the NCAA and not the Vols.

prstide said:

Hahaha! It's funny watching UT fans squirm because y'all all already know the allegations are legitimate but hopeful lawyering up will save the hope of UT actually winning something meaningful this season.
If Alabama never won another game I could die happy and still have been in attendance to see more national championship trophies hoisted by the Tide than UT has won in the football program's entire existence.

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Clearly we aren't the ones squirming here. If daddy Nick was still coaching Bama fans wouldn't care as much about this whole ordeal because they'd still expect to beat us on the field every year. NCAA is barking up the wrong tree this time. Signing their own death certificate.

bowhunterfanatic said:

Clearly we aren't the ones squirming here. If daddy Nick was still coaching Bama fans wouldn't care as much about this whole ordeal because they'd still expect to beat us on the field every year. NCAA is barking up the wrong tree this time. Signing their own death certificate.

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Ummmmm……I still fully expect Alabama to beat Tennessee on the field every year regardless of who is at the helm. That's where you're mistaken. Maybe some bandwagons feel differently but y'all are silly thinking Alabama is going anywhere or that Saban retiring elevates UT in any way, shape, or form. Gonna be some heartbroken VFLs come October!

Totally independent of Tennessee

prstide said:

Ummmmm……I still fully expect Alabama to beat Tennessee on the field every year regardless of who is at the helm. That's where you're mistaken. Maybe some bandwagons feel differently but y'all are silly thinking Alabama is going anywhere or that Saban retiring elevates UT in any way, shape, or form. Gonna be some heartbroken VFLs come October!

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Doesn't have to elevate us. All it has to do is bring you down a notch and it most certainly will. Even if Debo wins 2 natties in the next 10 years that'd be down a big notch. Now we're both looking up at Georgia and we both know it.