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<blockquote data-quote="th88" data-source="post: 5092498" data-attributes="member: 16217"><p>Unlike a bunch of folks, me and many other biologists don't fully bite into Chamberlain's theory. Key word being THEORY. This is not science based evidence he is spouting and many states are hopping on this popular bandwagon of changing seasons and taking away opportunity. Opportunity that will very likely not be given back. If pushing back season helped so much, Arkansas should be in much better shape than it is now! I've hunted MO for 15 years and the region I spend the most time in has half or maybe even less than half of the birds it did just 5 years ago. It's a function of mother nature, habitat, and the natural ups and downs of turkey populations. And on this topic, reducing the limit by a bird will have little to no noticeable effect on overall turkey numbers. More of a liberal approach to hunting: "You can't kill another bird to save one for this less experienced hunter, everyone deserves a turkey!"</p><p></p><p>One more thing. The delayed opener in the Middle TN counties happened to fall on a season where there are a good many 2 year olds. I track harvest data and the Jake harvests for 2020 in some of these counties was well above the 5 year running average. From this alone I knew 2021 would be better in a certain area. But people will jump the gun and try to contribute the good aeason/harvest to the later opener when it fact the 2019 hatch is the cause, not season changes. We saw the same thing last year in some southeastern states when folks tried blaming COVID for high harvests and ignored the fact there were more 2 year olds on the landscape in many areas than there had been in quiet a while. Even Chamberlain ignored this fact when he published that white paper of COVID's impacts on turkey.</p><p></p><p>I could go on, but I think you can see where I stand from the above.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="th88, post: 5092498, member: 16217"] Unlike a bunch of folks, me and many other biologists don't fully bite into Chamberlain's theory. Key word being THEORY. This is not science based evidence he is spouting and many states are hopping on this popular bandwagon of changing seasons and taking away opportunity. Opportunity that will very likely not be given back. If pushing back season helped so much, Arkansas should be in much better shape than it is now! I've hunted MO for 15 years and the region I spend the most time in has half or maybe even less than half of the birds it did just 5 years ago. It's a function of mother nature, habitat, and the natural ups and downs of turkey populations. And on this topic, reducing the limit by a bird will have little to no noticeable effect on overall turkey numbers. More of a liberal approach to hunting: "You can't kill another bird to save one for this less experienced hunter, everyone deserves a turkey!" One more thing. The delayed opener in the Middle TN counties happened to fall on a season where there are a good many 2 year olds. I track harvest data and the Jake harvests for 2020 in some of these counties was well above the 5 year running average. From this alone I knew 2021 would be better in a certain area. But people will jump the gun and try to contribute the good aeason/harvest to the later opener when it fact the 2019 hatch is the cause, not season changes. We saw the same thing last year in some southeastern states when folks tried blaming COVID for high harvests and ignored the fact there were more 2 year olds on the landscape in many areas than there had been in quiet a while. Even Chamberlain ignored this fact when he published that white paper of COVID's impacts on turkey. I could go on, but I think you can see where I stand from the above. [/QUOTE]
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