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<blockquote data-quote="TheLBLman" data-source="post: 5076700" data-attributes="member: 1409"><p>Agree.</p><p></p><p></p><p><u>I don't deny that</u>. But using decoys also costs the same hunters birds they would otherwise have a shot at as well. Regarding those big fields where some believe decoys work best, pretty easy to just ambush a bird, even easier if not messing with decoys? Heck, <u>regarding any field turkeys are using</u>, a guy can just sit there, much like we do "listening", and, without a decoy, kill a turkey in a field?</p><p></p><p>Also, just because we can prevent one hunter from killing a turkey while using a decoy, that doesn't necessarily mean another hunter, like me or you, or someone doing the belly crawl, won't simply kill that "saved" bird. You may be right, but in most areas, I don't see using or not using decoys effecting the collective total kill as much as the number of days, when they start, and the bag limit.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Great idea, totally agree.</p><p></p><p></p><p>IMO, decoy banning would make very little difference in our total annual kill, and not nearly as much as just opening the season only a single week later. If we ever go to a 1 bird limit, it won't be because of decoys. Heck, quail are nearly extinct, and there's still a 6-bird daily limit.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Same here.</p><p>And you know what?</p><p>If the season remained as many days, the limit were 3,</p><p>we would both be able to kill 3, without a decoy.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Probably to your surprise, I agree with you about this.</p><p>But two things: Every hunter who sometimes uses a decoy is not a decoy fairy.</p><p>And, hunters adapt.</p><p>Take the decoy fairies decoys away, they then get better at bushwhacking field birds and calling in woods birds. Just saying, they will still kill turkeys, just via different methods. They're not going to quit hunting, any more than you would if we replaced your shotgun with a stick & a string.</p><p></p><p></p><p>I agree, except for the part of decoys doing all the damage.</p><p>Truth is, many of the "kill at all cost crowd" I see, well, they actually don't use decoys. They're just very avid and accomplished turkey killers, limiting out, ASAP, starting in a more Southern state, then in TN, then moving on to other states, each often killing over a dozen birds annually, while complaining about someone else killing three while using decoys.</p><p></p><p>That said, I really have no problem with TWRA outlawing decoys.</p><p>My problem is with us attacking other hunters for using them while legal, instead of just promoting the merits of more traditional turkey hunting. This is akin to a fly fisherman wanting to outlaw fishing with a spinning reel, instead of just promoting the merits of fly fishing?</p><p>Maybe we can all just strive to be better sportsmen without attacking each other.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="TheLBLman, post: 5076700, member: 1409"] Agree. [U]I don't deny that[/U]. But using decoys also costs the same hunters birds they would otherwise have a shot at as well. Regarding those big fields where some believe decoys work best, pretty easy to just ambush a bird, even easier if not messing with decoys? Heck, [U]regarding any field turkeys are using[/U], a guy can just sit there, much like we do "listening", and, without a decoy, kill a turkey in a field? Also, just because we can prevent one hunter from killing a turkey while using a decoy, that doesn't necessarily mean another hunter, like me or you, or someone doing the belly crawl, won't simply kill that "saved" bird. You may be right, but in most areas, I don't see using or not using decoys effecting the collective total kill as much as the number of days, when they start, and the bag limit. Great idea, totally agree. IMO, decoy banning would make very little difference in our total annual kill, and not nearly as much as just opening the season only a single week later. If we ever go to a 1 bird limit, it won't be because of decoys. Heck, quail are nearly extinct, and there's still a 6-bird daily limit. Same here. And you know what? If the season remained as many days, the limit were 3, we would both be able to kill 3, without a decoy. Probably to your surprise, I agree with you about this. But two things: Every hunter who sometimes uses a decoy is not a decoy fairy. And, hunters adapt. Take the decoy fairies decoys away, they then get better at bushwhacking field birds and calling in woods birds. Just saying, they will still kill turkeys, just via different methods. They're not going to quit hunting, any more than you would if we replaced your shotgun with a stick & a string. I agree, except for the part of decoys doing all the damage. Truth is, many of the "kill at all cost crowd" I see, well, they actually don't use decoys. They're just very avid and accomplished turkey killers, limiting out, ASAP, starting in a more Southern state, then in TN, then moving on to other states, each often killing over a dozen birds annually, while complaining about someone else killing three while using decoys. That said, I really have no problem with TWRA outlawing decoys. My problem is with us attacking other hunters for using them while legal, instead of just promoting the merits of more traditional turkey hunting. This is akin to a fly fisherman wanting to outlaw fishing with a spinning reel, instead of just promoting the merits of fly fishing? Maybe we can all just strive to be better sportsmen without attacking each other. [/QUOTE]
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