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How many of you compete with your hunting rig?
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<blockquote data-quote="AlexDad" data-source="post: 5879200" data-attributes="member: 4122"><p>At OHLBC it was getting to basically 3 of us doing EVERYTHING. It's very disheartening when you work hard to set up a course, the weather is perfect, and 5 or 6 people show up. We've had ZERO show up. If there was a hint of bad weather, forget it.</p><p></p><p>We have 2 ASA qualifiers per year and that would draw in maybe 15-20 people. This was becoming the trend before TAC started but was magnified after TAC came to be. So I think your analysis is 100% spot on.</p><p></p><p>I've gotten real heavy into kayak bass tournaments and just like the boat tourneys, FFS is pushing a lot of the hobbyists out because they don't want to put $20-30k into electronics to even come close to competing.</p><p></p><p>One thing that has REALLY perplexed me when it comes to local archery and bass tournaments and golf for instance, all three are self penalizing - at least a small amount of money on the line, etc. Any local level golf scramble, bass tourney or 3D the cheating has become just unbearable.</p><p></p><p>3D is a lot more subjective when scoring compared to the other two. It takes X shots to get it in the hole, a bass weighs X lbs or X inches long. I got stuck in a group of 4 of us at the State ASA in 2021. The other 3 guys were buddies and then me. There's a little bit of subjectivity of whether an arrow pulls the line, etc. But these guys took the cake. If there was a close obstacle between the stake and target, they would move off the stake to take that obstacle out of the equation. Anything close was a gimme to them but they held my feet to the fire.</p><p></p><p>You're not supposed to shoot in a group with "friends" and you're supposed to shoot in a group with people you directly compete against so you all have skin in the game. That year they separated us without taking friendship into consideration and grouped so that one maybe one shot unknown 50, one known 40, etc. So in essence you had 3 friends in my group that weren't directly competing against each other so if they "gave" the guy a 12, it didn't hurt them.</p><p></p><p>Very disheartening and I complained but it was 3 against 1. In 2019 or 2020, when State was at Cedars of Lebanon we had a guy in our group shooting WAY over the speed limit. I think the limit now is 290 fps, I think then it was 280 with X% for chrono error. At certain times at certain targets they have a speed check and this guy had been complained about. He had one arrow marked and he'd always shoot the chrono with that one. One finally made him shoot another arrow back to back without allowing him to pull his "special" arrow and he got caught.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="AlexDad, post: 5879200, member: 4122"] At OHLBC it was getting to basically 3 of us doing EVERYTHING. It's very disheartening when you work hard to set up a course, the weather is perfect, and 5 or 6 people show up. We've had ZERO show up. If there was a hint of bad weather, forget it. We have 2 ASA qualifiers per year and that would draw in maybe 15-20 people. This was becoming the trend before TAC started but was magnified after TAC came to be. So I think your analysis is 100% spot on. I've gotten real heavy into kayak bass tournaments and just like the boat tourneys, FFS is pushing a lot of the hobbyists out because they don't want to put $20-30k into electronics to even come close to competing. One thing that has REALLY perplexed me when it comes to local archery and bass tournaments and golf for instance, all three are self penalizing - at least a small amount of money on the line, etc. Any local level golf scramble, bass tourney or 3D the cheating has become just unbearable. 3D is a lot more subjective when scoring compared to the other two. It takes X shots to get it in the hole, a bass weighs X lbs or X inches long. I got stuck in a group of 4 of us at the State ASA in 2021. The other 3 guys were buddies and then me. There's a little bit of subjectivity of whether an arrow pulls the line, etc. But these guys took the cake. If there was a close obstacle between the stake and target, they would move off the stake to take that obstacle out of the equation. Anything close was a gimme to them but they held my feet to the fire. You're not supposed to shoot in a group with "friends" and you're supposed to shoot in a group with people you directly compete against so you all have skin in the game. That year they separated us without taking friendship into consideration and grouped so that one maybe one shot unknown 50, one known 40, etc. So in essence you had 3 friends in my group that weren't directly competing against each other so if they "gave" the guy a 12, it didn't hurt them. Very disheartening and I complained but it was 3 against 1. In 2019 or 2020, when State was at Cedars of Lebanon we had a guy in our group shooting WAY over the speed limit. I think the limit now is 290 fps, I think then it was 280 with X% for chrono error. At certain times at certain targets they have a speed check and this guy had been complained about. He had one arrow marked and he'd always shoot the chrono with that one. One finally made him shoot another arrow back to back without allowing him to pull his "special" arrow and he got caught. [/QUOTE]
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