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<blockquote data-quote="megalomaniac" data-source="post: 995300" data-attributes="member: 2805"><p>You don't need an expensive scope on a rifle to SHOOT a deer, as long as the scope will hold zero.</p><p></p><p>You DO need good glass to really HUNT deer, though. (although to meet the good glass requirement you can substitute good binoculars for a scope)</p><p></p><p>Let me explain the difference...</p><p></p><p>The average hunter will shoot a deer less than 100 yards, mostly with plenty of light after sunup or before sundown. He doesn't need to be able to tell if the yearling is a button or a doe fawn, he doesn't care if it's a 3ptr vs a 4ptr... he's just going to shoot the darn deer and kill it deader than stink.</p><p></p><p>but to really HUNT, you've got to maximize those first 5 minutes of light in the morning, as well as the last 5 minutes of light in the evening. In order to do that, you've got to have really, really good glass (in fact, I've only got one scope capable of doing it efficiently... and it cost $1300). For that reason, I carry a pair of zeiss 8x56 binoculars. I could use cheaper/lighter binocs for the rest of the day, but those 10 minutes are so crucial, it's worth it to me.</p><p></p><p>Also, some hunters aren't satisfied just shooting deer under 100 yards. Some like to shoot em out to 700. And at 700 yards, you just can't 'hold over' and expect to make ethical kills. You've got to have a scope that not only holds zero, but has accurate, true, and REPEATABLE adjustments to dial in the dope on the scope before the shot. That alone immediately eliminates 75% of the scopes out there.</p><p></p><p>And the way I hunt, I NEED to be able to tell the difference between a button and a doe; between a 2.5 yr old buck and a 3.5 yr old buck; etc. In order to accomplish this, I need a scope with excellent color contrast and extremely low distortion. The cheaper scopes just don't compare.</p><p></p><p>Finally, I like to shoot at the range a good bit. The difference in scope prices probably is most obvious in this situation... My $1300 scope can be held on a 1/6" dot at 100 yards on 32x with ease.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="megalomaniac, post: 995300, member: 2805"] You don't need an expensive scope on a rifle to SHOOT a deer, as long as the scope will hold zero. You DO need good glass to really HUNT deer, though. (although to meet the good glass requirement you can substitute good binoculars for a scope) Let me explain the difference... The average hunter will shoot a deer less than 100 yards, mostly with plenty of light after sunup or before sundown. He doesn't need to be able to tell if the yearling is a button or a doe fawn, he doesn't care if it's a 3ptr vs a 4ptr... he's just going to shoot the darn deer and kill it deader than stink. but to really HUNT, you've got to maximize those first 5 minutes of light in the morning, as well as the last 5 minutes of light in the evening. In order to do that, you've got to have really, really good glass (in fact, I've only got one scope capable of doing it efficiently... and it cost $1300). For that reason, I carry a pair of zeiss 8x56 binoculars. I could use cheaper/lighter binocs for the rest of the day, but those 10 minutes are so crucial, it's worth it to me. Also, some hunters aren't satisfied just shooting deer under 100 yards. Some like to shoot em out to 700. And at 700 yards, you just can't 'hold over' and expect to make ethical kills. You've got to have a scope that not only holds zero, but has accurate, true, and REPEATABLE adjustments to dial in the dope on the scope before the shot. That alone immediately eliminates 75% of the scopes out there. And the way I hunt, I NEED to be able to tell the difference between a button and a doe; between a 2.5 yr old buck and a 3.5 yr old buck; etc. In order to accomplish this, I need a scope with excellent color contrast and extremely low distortion. The cheaper scopes just don't compare. Finally, I like to shoot at the range a good bit. The difference in scope prices probably is most obvious in this situation... My $1300 scope can be held on a 1/6" dot at 100 yards on 32x with ease. [/QUOTE]
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