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<blockquote data-quote="TNDeerJP" data-source="post: 5197285" data-attributes="member: 21359"><p>I've used everything for 25 or 30 years and saddles definitely have their place and advantages. But they are very different from just climbing a ladder or sticks or using a portable climber, because with these systems you end up sitting on your behind similar to sitting in a char facing out from the tree which can be comfortable and familiar. You can pad your butt in a variety of ways and they rarely cut into your butt or legs. I have a Tree Saddle and a "Sneaky-Seat" (no longer sold?) which is a set of minimal straps around your behind very much like a rock climber's rappelling seat (which BTW works fine as a way to hang in a tree). The Tree Saddle is a big heavy leather thing that is possible to be comfortable in but for me only if it has a small pillow in it. The Sneaky Seat is comfortable because it snugly fits my axx and I often use it instead of a chest based safety harness sometimes to go up and down climbing sticks to hunt from a hang-on. </p><p></p><p>With a hanging seat you typically hunt with the tree in your face as you almost hug the tree. It's initially nice to be "hiding" behind the tree if the deer comes in front of you but can be a real challenge to turn around and shoot with either bow or gun if the deer comes from behind you unless you install a "platform" of four screw in tree steps to stand on that go around the tree. Knee pads are a must or you can find yourself in real pain because you will be needing to push yourself out from the tree to avoid having your face too close to the tree. Though it's not a problem with a gun you will need to lean out from the tree to shoot a vertical bow. Crossbows require you to lean out even farther and I would not recommend using them. It's very different from simply shorting either gun or bow from a sitting or standing position in a regular tree stand of any kind.</p><p></p><p>Tree saddles need to fit your butt just like your pants do. And using them is very different from other stands. Watch the YouTube videos that are available and and borrow one or two from friends to try them out. Used successfully they are very deadly. Very portable and quiet to bring into the woods and very safe because you really can't fall out of them. But one of the most miserable hunts I ever went on was years ago when I decided to "try out" my Tree Saddle for a first time at Land Between the Lakes and spent a day in pain and misery with a seat that cut into my axx (no pillow) and skinned up and bruised knees. I spent so much time shifting my weight around to get comfortable that there was no way I was going to see any deer within shooting range. Try one before you buy it.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="TNDeerJP, post: 5197285, member: 21359"] I've used everything for 25 or 30 years and saddles definitely have their place and advantages. But they are very different from just climbing a ladder or sticks or using a portable climber, because with these systems you end up sitting on your behind similar to sitting in a char facing out from the tree which can be comfortable and familiar. You can pad your butt in a variety of ways and they rarely cut into your butt or legs. I have a Tree Saddle and a "Sneaky-Seat" (no longer sold?) which is a set of minimal straps around your behind very much like a rock climber's rappelling seat (which BTW works fine as a way to hang in a tree). The Tree Saddle is a big heavy leather thing that is possible to be comfortable in but for me only if it has a small pillow in it. The Sneaky Seat is comfortable because it snugly fits my axx and I often use it instead of a chest based safety harness sometimes to go up and down climbing sticks to hunt from a hang-on. With a hanging seat you typically hunt with the tree in your face as you almost hug the tree. It's initially nice to be "hiding" behind the tree if the deer comes in front of you but can be a real challenge to turn around and shoot with either bow or gun if the deer comes from behind you unless you install a "platform" of four screw in tree steps to stand on that go around the tree. Knee pads are a must or you can find yourself in real pain because you will be needing to push yourself out from the tree to avoid having your face too close to the tree. Though it's not a problem with a gun you will need to lean out from the tree to shoot a vertical bow. Crossbows require you to lean out even farther and I would not recommend using them. It's very different from simply shorting either gun or bow from a sitting or standing position in a regular tree stand of any kind. Tree saddles need to fit your butt just like your pants do. And using them is very different from other stands. Watch the YouTube videos that are available and and borrow one or two from friends to try them out. Used successfully they are very deadly. Very portable and quiet to bring into the woods and very safe because you really can't fall out of them. But one of the most miserable hunts I ever went on was years ago when I decided to "try out" my Tree Saddle for a first time at Land Between the Lakes and spent a day in pain and misery with a seat that cut into my axx (no pillow) and skinned up and bruised knees. I spent so much time shifting my weight around to get comfortable that there was no way I was going to see any deer within shooting range. Try one before you buy it. [/QUOTE]
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