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<blockquote data-quote="Hunter 257W" data-source="post: 4404220" data-attributes="member: 12277"><p>Sure they will kill deer as it's done every season but it's more of an experts gun than a kids gun in my opinion. It get's misused the same way the 410 does for kids though. Why give a gun with the least killing power to a beginning hunter who is most likely to make a bad shot? Also bullet choice is critical because if you don't retain nearly 100% bullet weight after impact, you won't get much penetration. A .224 bullet is so light weight that it can't afford to shed weight when it hits an animal. I solved the "kid gun" problem with a CZ Carbine in 7.62x39. My daughter barely weighed 100 lbs - if that - when she started shooting it and she loved it from the 1st shot. It's minimal but at least you have 125 grains of bullet weight and all the bullets available are suitable for deer. With 223 ammo, that is certainly not true.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Hunter 257W, post: 4404220, member: 12277"] Sure they will kill deer as it's done every season but it's more of an experts gun than a kids gun in my opinion. It get's misused the same way the 410 does for kids though. Why give a gun with the least killing power to a beginning hunter who is most likely to make a bad shot? Also bullet choice is critical because if you don't retain nearly 100% bullet weight after impact, you won't get much penetration. A .224 bullet is so light weight that it can't afford to shed weight when it hits an animal. I solved the "kid gun" problem with a CZ Carbine in 7.62x39. My daughter barely weighed 100 lbs - if that - when she started shooting it and she loved it from the 1st shot. It's minimal but at least you have 125 grains of bullet weight and all the bullets available are suitable for deer. With 223 ammo, that is certainly not true. [/QUOTE]
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