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diamond hunter

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I saw deer corn at the grocery store today.I mean dang,it makes me wonder how many people actually dont abide by the law.Does anyone know what the penalty is for using corn during season? This is a question out of curiosity,I have no reason to use it unless Im taking pictures.
 
As I travel through Alabama on my trips between MS and TN, there is a deer corn dispenser on the side of the highway in what looks like a carpooling parking area. It is a big yellow grain silo looking deal on stilts, with a huge sign advertising deer corn for sale. You just pull up, put in your money, and it dispenses it like an ice machine. Thought I'd seen everything.
 
To answer your question. I think it is subjective to the offense, the offender, and the judge. Could be a fine, loss of hunting privileges, or both. I think a lot of people put it out. Now for our annual baiting debate 😈

This question comes up every year. I have said it before, but will say it again. Every year Academy, Walmart, and store that sells sporting goods, gets pallets of corn. It starts to trickle out when bow opens, but DISAPPEARS when ML opens. It stays in low supply all the way through gun. So a lot of people are using it. I have had non hunting friends from Giles county tell me that their hunting friends have told them, that you will not see deer if you don't put out corn... In GILES CO!?!?!🤦‍♂️

IMO this will become another issue like marijuana. All our lives we were taught it was bad, but now the younger generations feel it is just fine to use it. Eventually it will become legal to some extent.

I have also said, this before, but will also say it again. From my perspective, I see no difference in a guy planting a 1-2 acre green field up against a thicket and sitting in a shooting house waiting on deer to come out to feed. Sure he worked harder, but the intent is the same. Create food source that wasn't there, shoot deer when they come to it. I do this too. You cannot convince me that there is a difference. The aflatoxin argument is moot on deer (low probability), although it may wipe out your turkeys (I care about that, but some don't).

The only difference is we were taught that pouring out corn is cheating and illegal and that planting is just good land management. They are the same IMO.
 
I was in Sportsman's warehouse the other evening and the people in front of me had 2 bags of corn, some other attractant, and a tikka. The one stop shop. Now I'm not saying they we're getting ready to shoot deer over bait but I think they had the "quick kill starter kit".
At least they have good taste in rifles.
 
From about October 1st through Christmas I will put out corn behind my deck at Rock Island. The entire development has a "no hunting" rule in the covenants so these deer aren't hunted. I certainly enjoy sitting on my deck and watching them and have absolutely zero desire to shoot one. Even the 10 pointer that was hanging around this year. I will throw out 2 large 32 ounce cups of corn a day when I'm there which is 3-4 days a week.

Now last week I had to go buy a new bag of corn from the TSC in McMinnville and when I opened the back of my Jeep to throw the corn in I had to throw it on top of my Summit Viper stand. Good ol' boy walking buy just looked at me and winked. Lol......I didn't even bother to explain. I reckon the point is that what sometimes seems obvious really isn't. Part of my reasoning for feeding the deer other than my pure joy of just watching them is that I know there are outlaws that will skirt the edges and sneak in to take a semi tame buck. I also know of one resident that killed a big one a few years ago in his back yard. My thoughts are that if I keep the does around during the rut then I will also keep some of the bucks around which where I live is in the very back of the development at the end of a dead end road. If the bucks make it through the rut then they will most likely make it to next year.
 
I used to have a feeder in my backyard but don't hunt there. The deer absolutely love corn, more than anything else I've seen, including my clover plots. Stopped putting it out when CWD rolled in. However, had a new neighbor move in next to me and he puts out corn and also hunts over it, and I suspect sometimes at night. Its amazing, even with my clover plots, how much it has altered the deer movement and how much less deer I see.
 
To answer your question. I think it is subjective to the offense, the offender, and the judge. Could be a fine, loss of hunting privileges, or both. I think a lot of people put it out. Now for our annual baiting debate 😈

This question comes up every year. I have said it before, but will say it again. Every year Academy, Walmart, and store that sells sporting goods, gets pallets of corn. It starts to trickle out when bow opens, but DISAPPEARS when ML opens. It stays in low supply all the way through gun. So a lot of people are using it. I have had non hunting friends from Giles county tell me that their hunting friends have told them, that you will not see deer if you don't put out corn... In GILES CO!?!?!🤦‍♂️

IMO this will become another issue like marijuana. All our lives we were taught it was bad, but now the younger generations feel it is just fine to use it. Eventually it will become legal to some extent.

I have also said, this before, but will also say it again. From my perspective, I see no difference in a guy planting a 1-2 acre green field up against a thicket and sitting in a shooting house waiting on deer to come out to feed. Sure he worked harder, but the intent is the same. Create food source that wasn't there, shoot deer when they come to it. I do this too. You cannot convince me that there is a difference. The aflatoxin argument is moot on deer (low probability), although it may wipe out your turkeys (I care about that, but some don't).

The only difference is we were taught that pouring out corn is cheating and illegal and that planting is just good land management. They are the same IMO.
Only reason it may never be legalized is because of the spread of CWD. Also the money they make from fines might come into play.

I've planted micro plots of winter wheat that were basically like living green bait piles. The deer only hammer them for a week or two but it works.

But a large plot, or a cut corn field, does not compare to a bait pile, unless you're rifle hunting. Bowhunting over an open field vs bowhunting over a pile of corn in the woods are two entirely different things.

The bucks I was hunting in the backyard this year were in the green fields like clockwork almost every single evening during early bow season. But they came out a different way every single time and I never got close enough for a shot.

Come muzzleloader season and they weren't on a field feeding pattern anymore, but I ended up killing one in the same field by calling him in off a doe, just by chance.

So that field that may have been like a giant bait pile in September no longer had that effect when ML came around. I'd like to say the results may have been a little different if I'd had a bait pile up in the woods. Heck, I'd have killed him during the velvet hunt if there was a bait pile in the woods.
 
The only difference is we were taught that pouring out corn is cheating and illegal and that planting is just good land management. They are the same IMO.

Depends on where you live!

My daughter killed a nice buck on a cut corn field this weekend. That field was candy to the 8 bucks we saw come out on it after the sun set. Rutting and cold nights makes bucks hungry.

KY hunters don't seem to think twice about baiting. Same for NC and increasingly GA. It is literally the poor man's food plot.

The deer disappear so much off my cameras during rifle that it makes me wonder if the landowners around us are not doing the same.

Honestly, I'm too cheap to bait or plant and I don't have an easy way to pack it or plant it. Hunting costs me too much already.
 
Only reason it may never be legalized is because of the spread of CWD. Also the money they make from fines might come into play.
what about the money and taxes raised from the sale...
But a large plot, or a cut corn field, does not compare to a bait pile, unless you're rifle hunting. Bowhunting over an open field vs bowhunting over a pile of corn in the woods are two entirely different things.
I'm specifically talking gun ML. Bow is a whole different animal. I know it is tough to hunt a field with a bow and it is easier to hunt a corn pile with a bow in the woods, but with a gun or ML if your field is the preferred food source at the time a small plot is nothing more than a " living green bait pile".
 
I am sure that some in my area sit over corn piles, but without trespassing, I cannot prove it. I did clue our game warden in about 7 years ago. Now with cwd being in our county, would seem they would be more serious about doing something about those engaging in this. Walmart still sells their deer corn too. I see the same truck come in our road with his side by side, with his buckets in the back. Seen another with bags of corn in the back of the side by side.

I have opened the stomachs of deer killed in December and found them full of corn. Dumping corn where it is not legal is cheating in my book, but hey I guess the flipside is that when I kill the deer these cheats are feeding, that deer is that much sweeter.
 
what about the money and taxes raised from the sale...

I'm specifically talking gun ML. Bow is a whole different animal. I know it is tough to hunt a field with a bow and it is easier to hunt a corn pile with a bow in the woods, but with a gun or ML if your field is the preferred food source at the time a small plot is nothing more than a " living green bait pile".
Like I said, the only real comparison I can see to bait is a micro plot. But if you plant a legit food plot, one that will last through the winter, you gotta have equipment to work the soil, get a soil test, lime if needed, fertilize and plant seeds. And the end result is much more beneficial to deer than just corn which is mostly calories. Sure you can shoot a deer over it like a bait pile, but you can also spend an hour in the woods in October and find a hot white oak and shoot a deer over it like a bait pile. It's just not the same as pouring out corn in a pile and waiting. And for the record, I'm not against baiting where it's legal.
 

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Now with cwd being in our county, would seem they would be more serious about doing something about those engaging in this.
When CWD hit our area, I actually called the game warden on my neighbor. The gravity corn feeder was easily visible across the fence with corn piled up on the ground. I actually pretty much witnessed him hunting at night. Called the game warden twice (game warden lives about 5 miles away) but was pretty much ignored both times. Strange side to this, I saw him dragging a deer, but I never heard the gun shot. Still don't know what weapon he was using, but it wasn't a bow.
 
When CWD hit our area, I actually called the game warden on my neighbor. The gravity corn feeder was easily visible across the fence with corn piled up on the ground. I actually pretty much witnessed him hunting at night. Called the game warden twice (game warden lives about 5 miles away) but was pretty much ignored both times. Strange side to this, I saw him dragging a deer, but I never heard the gun shot. Still don't know what weapon he was using, but it wasn't a bow.
Maybe an air rifle with suppressor?
 
I used to have a feeder in my backyard but don't hunt there. The deer absolutely love corn, more than anything else I've seen, including my clover plots. Stopped putting it out when CWD rolled in. However, had a new neighbor move in next to me and he puts out corn and also hunts over it, and I suspect sometimes at night. Its amazing, even with my clover plots, how much it has altered the deer movement and how much less deer I see.
Yep, will definitely change where the deer are hanging out. If it was legal, everyone could do it, then the person with the best pile might get the best deer or at least have a better chance. With it not being legal, those baiting are cheating.
 

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