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I got really tired of listing to women, which is a debatable term to this group, cry about money equality in the World Cup. Most Americans care nothing about soccer. This year the NCAA women are crying about facilities for them vs what is provided for the men. Well.............

The NCAA released figures for its 2019 basketball tournaments, the last ones unaffected by the pandemic, amid uproar over inequities between its 2021 men’s and women’s tournaments. Figures for the 2021 tournaments are expected to be relatively similar.

The 2019 men’s tournament, the NCAA said, generated $917.8 million in revenue, and $864.6 million in net income. The 2019 women’s tournament, it said, generated only $15.1 million in revenue, and that caused $2.8 million in net loss.

The revenue gulf is largely attributable to TV contracts. CBS and Turner pay the NCAA roughly $900 million per year to broadcast the men’s tournament. ESPN pays the NCAA roughly $36 million per year to broadcast 24 other NCAA championships, including the women’s basketball tournament. Kathleen McNeely, the NCAA’s chief financial officer, told The New York Times that women’s basketball accounts for 15.9% of the ESPN contract’s value, per a third-party assessment. That would make the women’s basketball tournament’s TV rights worth roughly only $5.7 million per year.


Want more money, draw more interest. Maybe when the women’s sports are dominated by mediocre confused boys things might improve?
 

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megan rapinoe is a liar, also. The courts have already ruled that the women's national soccer team is actually paid more than the men's team; that little nugget of truth is conveniently overlooked by the media(D).

Sanity prevails as federal judge slaps down Megan Rapinoe’s fake ‘equal pay’ lawsuit

Over the past decade, U.S. Soccer has paid our Women’s National Team more than our Men’s National Team. From 2010 through 2018, U.S. Soccer paid our women $34.1 million in salaries and game bonuses, and we paid our men $26.4 million — not counting the significant additional value of various benefits that our women’s players receive but which our men do not.

It’s true that FIFA, the body which hosts the men’s and women’s World Cup competitions, offers the men substantially higher prize figures than the women. But this is based on the huge differences in TV ratings between the competitions, not sexism, and more importantly, FIFA isn’t the defendant named in the USWNT’s lawsuit!
 

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I got really tired of listing to women, which is a debatable term to this group, cry about money equality in the World Cup. Most Americans care nothing about soccer. This year the NCAA women are crying about facilities for them vs what is provided for the men. Well.............

The NCAA released figures for its 2019 basketball tournaments, the last ones unaffected by the pandemic, amid uproar over inequities between its 2021 men’s and women’s tournaments. Figures for the 2021 tournaments are expected to be relatively similar.

The 2019 men’s tournament, the NCAA said, generated $917.8 million in revenue, and $864.6 million in net income. The 2019 women’s tournament, it said, generated only $15.1 million in revenue, and that caused $2.8 million in net loss.

The revenue gulf is largely attributable to TV contracts. CBS and Turner pay the NCAA roughly $900 million per year to broadcast the men’s tournament. ESPN pays the NCAA roughly $36 million per year to broadcast 24 other NCAA championships, including the women’s basketball tournament. Kathleen McNeely, the NCAA’s chief financial officer, told The New York Times that women’s basketball accounts for 15.9% of the ESPN contract’s value, per a third-party assessment. That would make the women’s basketball tournament’s TV rights worth roughly only $5.7 million per year.


Want more money, draw more interest. Maybe when the women’s sports are dominated by mediocre confused boys things might improve?

What does profit have to do with the mission of the NCAA to promote both men's and women's college sports?
The NCAA is making almost $1 billion in profit on basketball.
IMO the NCAA is obligated to provide equal facilities and treatment to women athletes in all respects
And Title lX also makes it clear that the NCAA owes the women parity without regard to profits.
And let's not forget that the NCAA also makes a cut from sport's betting.

This outlines the ways in which equal treatment is a requirement of Title lX and doesn't say anything about profits as being an excuse for different treatment of the sexes.

The NCAA chooses to have 2 tournaments going on at the same time in direct competition with each other for TV ratings.
The women should not be penalized for that.
The popularity of women's basketball is well known, especially in the states that have teams playing in the tournament.
The UConn women's games draw a lot of interest, especially with Baylor, and the Sweet 16 game with Iowa was nationally broadcast on ABC.
 
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i had never paid much attention to soccer little less women soccer but when i was going through radiation treatment i got hooked women's world cup and watched most every game the USA was in. megan rapinoe may be crazy but can play the game.
 

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The women's National Soccer team got beat twice by a bunch of teenage boys. And they signed a contract. They agreed to be paid less.
 

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All of the winter and summer female Olympic athletes are awesome.
There's far to many sporting events and superstars to list.
Softball was added from 1996 to 2008, then dropped in 2012 and 2016, but will be included again along with baseball in 2021.
Anyone who has ever played fast pitch softball knows that it's not easy
Then there's other team sports like womens ice hockey.
 
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This video explains it all.
What the WNT is NOT saying, is that they turned down the exact same financial package as the men!
Except, they wanted a guaranteed salary, severance pay, health and dental insurance and child care (to include travel expenses for their child care giver at matches).

 

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Unpopular opinion here. College sports are a racket. Even if the kids get a full ride scholarship to play a sport, training/traveling take so much time they could get a part time job and make more money than the value of the scholarship. Which is ridiculous because the universities make a killing on these kids.

The right thing to do is let the kids go pro at any age they want or play intramural.
 

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This video explains it all.
What the WNT is NOT saying, is that they turned down the exact same financial package as the men!
Except, they wanted a guaranteed salary, severance pay, health and dental insurance and child care (to include travel expenses for their child care giver at matches).


They made a bad deal. If they had agreed to the same structure as the men's team they'd have come out ahead; however, they wanted guaranteed paydays rather than (for lack of a better term) pay-for-performance.

If they are honest, they'll ask to be moved to the pay structure the men now have; but that would require them to give up the perks they now have and there's no way in hell they'll do that.
 

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Unpopular opinion here. College sports are a racket. Even if the kids get a full ride scholarship to play a sport, training/traveling take so much time they could get a part time job and make more money than the value of the scholarship. Which is ridiculous because the universities make a killing on these kids.

The right thing to do is let the kids go pro at any age they want or play intramural.
Name a part- time job equal to the value of a full athletic scholarship.
 

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Name a part- time job equal to the value of a full athletic scholarship.
10 dollars an hour, 25 hours a week, 52 weeks a year is 13 thousand dollars. If it's in the field the student was planning on working in, it's experience or a leg in the door.

My sister had an internship where she worked 30 hours per week 17$ per hour at an engineering firm (23,400 per year) and had a foot in the door.

The average d1 athletic scholarship is 14 thousand for men 15 thousand for women. The average d2 scholarship is 5 thousand for men 6 thousand for women.
 

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Basketball and football scholarships can be more lucrative than other sports.
15 of the top Women's Div. l Basketball programs offer up to 15 full scholarships per team.
Plus they receive other stipends including all their food and snacks.
"Headcount scholarships are full-ride scholarships, which means every recipient will have his tuition, compulsory fees, room, and board, and required textbooks covered. Depending on the school, a full-ride may also include stipends for personal living expenses, miscellaneous expenses, and travel costs. With headcount scholarships, the head coach and athletic director of an NCAA Division I school can give 15 full-ride scholarships to 15 student-athletes..."

My state university charges $54K - $57K per year including fees, housing and meals for out of state residents,
And that doesn't include books which can be covered by a full scholarship.
Plus there are endowments and other athletic scholarships that schools can make available.

"...The average athletic scholarship is about $10,400 per year, or $8,700 if you don't account for the more generous scholarships usually reserved for men's football and basketball players. Only four sports offer full rides: men's football, men's basketball, women's basketball, and women's volleyball...."

 
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