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<blockquote data-quote="GMB54" data-source="post: 4964804" data-attributes="member: 15365"><p>Virtually all the straight wall cartridge break actions can be had for well under $500. Virtually all of them will beat the Fiddlestick in speed and cost per shot. When you open up your season to rifles like the Nitrofire you can be damn sure the straight wall single shots are next to be allowed. A few states already allow single shots. Some have changed the name of the season to things like Primitive or Alternative.</p><p></p><p>So even if it were legal here i cant imagine why i would want to shoot a rifle with 2 powder load options and still have to fill out a 4473. The Fiddlestick is actually $2.50 to $2.70 per shot plus bullet, sabot and primer. I can easily buy/reload Hornady 45/70 Monoflex or 450 Bushmaster ammo for that price or less. I can then reload the brass which Federal clearly states you cant with the Fiddlestick.</p><p></p><p>Another issue. Sure its easy to remove the powder. What about the bullet/sabot? You still have to push that out if you dont fire it. You will probably damage the sabot or bullets like the Federal BOR-Lock in the process. If i have to dump a BH209 load im out less than a dollar even with a max load.</p><p></p><p>What about conicals?...Somehow i doubt smallest 100gr load of this new wonder powder is low enough to shoot a conical without leading the barrel. I doubt Federal/Traditions even recommends shooting bullets 400gr or more with them. Hodgdons official reply to 888 is they have no plans to release it in loose form. Federal states you DONT clean it with water....Wanna bet its either BH209 or smokeless powder in that Fiddlestick.</p><p></p><p></p><p>If its smokeless then why not just get a SML and get an easy 300fps more for less than half the price per shot for powder. I get 120ish shots out of my most expensive powder at $40/lb. I get 2440fps with that load using a 275gr bullet at 33cents per shot. Add about $1.50 for bullet and sabot. Total cost is less than 1 stinking Fiddlestick.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="GMB54, post: 4964804, member: 15365"] Virtually all the straight wall cartridge break actions can be had for well under $500. Virtually all of them will beat the Fiddlestick in speed and cost per shot. When you open up your season to rifles like the Nitrofire you can be damn sure the straight wall single shots are next to be allowed. A few states already allow single shots. Some have changed the name of the season to things like Primitive or Alternative. So even if it were legal here i cant imagine why i would want to shoot a rifle with 2 powder load options and still have to fill out a 4473. The Fiddlestick is actually $2.50 to $2.70 per shot plus bullet, sabot and primer. I can easily buy/reload Hornady 45/70 Monoflex or 450 Bushmaster ammo for that price or less. I can then reload the brass which Federal clearly states you cant with the Fiddlestick. Another issue. Sure its easy to remove the powder. What about the bullet/sabot? You still have to push that out if you dont fire it. You will probably damage the sabot or bullets like the Federal BOR-Lock in the process. If i have to dump a BH209 load im out less than a dollar even with a max load. What about conicals?...Somehow i doubt smallest 100gr load of this new wonder powder is low enough to shoot a conical without leading the barrel. I doubt Federal/Traditions even recommends shooting bullets 400gr or more with them. Hodgdons official reply to 888 is they have no plans to release it in loose form. Federal states you DONT clean it with water....Wanna bet its either BH209 or smokeless powder in that Fiddlestick. If its smokeless then why not just get a SML and get an easy 300fps more for less than half the price per shot for powder. I get 120ish shots out of my most expensive powder at $40/lb. I get 2440fps with that load using a 275gr bullet at 33cents per shot. Add about $1.50 for bullet and sabot. Total cost is less than 1 stinking Fiddlestick. [/QUOTE]
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