Myths and Inaccuracies related to quota hunts

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1) If you miss putting in one year, your priority points are not affected. You won't gain that year, but you won't lose any either.
2) One quota hunt doesn't affect the other. If you are drawn for a Spring Turkey hunt, it will have not affect on your priority status or bearing on whether or not you will be drawn for a WMA hunt.
3) Your priority is YOURS, the only time party priority is considered is during the drawing. If you are in a party with 3 folks and you have 4 points, and your buddies only have 3, you are going into the drawing in the 3 point priority category. However, if your application is unsuccessful, you will gain one point for a total of 5 and your buddies will each gain one point for a total of 4 each.
4) Regardless of the mistake made on an application, my office can correct it...UNTIL the deadline passes! You can review your application on the website, look for the link "Check Your Quota Hunt Application Status & Permit Availability".
5) There is NO priority point system for the Elk quota hunt.
6) My quota hunt program does not have a "buy a point". It never has.
7) Number of drawings and number of hunt choices are two completely different things. You may choose 1 drawing and enter up to 15 hunt choices on your application. You may also choose 2 drawings and enter only 2 hunt choices.
8) Each individual MUST submit an application. If you are hunting in a party, the first one in your party will "create a new party" and therefore be the party leader. The party leader chooses the number of drawings and the hunt choices and whether or not to allow lower priority members to join the party. The ONLY way for someone to join the party is to submit an application, choose "join an existing party" and input the 6 digit party number into the box that comes up. The party number links the leader with the member so that if the leader is drawn, all the members are drawn.
9) Your application is NOT complete and I have NO record of it, until you get a TAN or Temporary Authorization Number. When applications are accepted into the quota hunt system, it sends the TAN back to notify the user that their application is complete and in the system.
10)You will get a new party number every year. They do not carry over from one year to another.
11) You DO NOT have to apply with the same folks every year. You can apply alone one year, in a party of 10 the next and a party of 5 the year after that. It will not affect your priority status. The exception being if you allow lower priority members to join your party.
 
These are commonly asked questions and inaccuracies I hear all the time. If I left something out or if you think of a question I didn't answer here, let me know. :)

QL
 
QuotaLady said:
These are commonly asked questions and inaccuracies I hear all the time. If I left something out or if you think of a question I didn't answer here, let me know. :)

QL

So by your explanation, "priority points" are location specific?

If I put in year after year to where I have 5 points at Presidents Island, then decide to apply elsewhere and get drawn, my 5 points at PI are still valid?
 
So by the first myth if I miss putting in one year then my priority points that I had accumulated up until that point WILL in fact be affected. Does that mean I will lose all of them when I decide to put in the next year?
 
TAFKAP said:
If I put in year after year to where I have 5 points at Presidents Island, then decide to apply elsewhere and get drawn, my 5 points at PI are still valid?
No. You lose. :D Go to jail. Do not pass go.
DEPENDS on where is ELSEWHERE. Should elsewhere be a non-TWRA quota hunt, those drawings will have no effect on your TWRA quota drawings.

Mike D said:
. . . . . if I miss putting in one year then my priority points that I had accumulated up until that point WILL in fact be affected. Does that mean I will lose all of them when I decide to put in the next year?
Keep in mind, we're talking only about TWRA's fully managed WMA quota hunts, which do not include certain non-TWRA managed WMA's such as National Wildlife Refuges, Ft. Campbell, LBL, Milan Arsenal, etc. (they have their own separate drawings independent of TWRA and may do their drawings very differently).

Unless you actually apply, you lose none, you gain none.
Unless you actually are drawn, you lose none.

If you apply and are drawn, you lose all (in either the respective "fall" or "spring turkey" quota hunts, which are managed separately in terms of priority points). The spring quota hunts are a totally separate adventure than the fall quota hunts. You apply in like February for the spring quota turkey hunts; you apply in like July for the fall quota hunts.

Your priority points in the spring turkey quota drawings are not effected by anything you do or don't do in the fall quota drawings, and vice-versa.

If you apply and are not drawn, you gain one priority point (in either that respective spring turkey quota drawing or that fall quota drawing.)

The TWRA fall quota hunt drawings (now in progress) are mainly about deer. Again, the fall quota drawing is totally separate from the spring quota turkey. It is also separate from the elk quota drawing (even though the elk lottery is simultaneous to fall quota hunts as to when you apply).

There are also "drawings" for duck blinds, etc. which are independent from these main fall quota big-game hunts. You may also buy lottery tickets from any convenience store, and win or lose, that will have no effect on your TWRA quota hunts.
 
TAFKAP said:
QuotaLady said:
These are commonly asked questions and inaccuracies I hear all the time. If I left something out or if you think of a question I didn't answer here, let me know. :)

QL

So by your explanation, "priority points" are location specific?

If I put in year after year to where I have 5 points at Presidents Island, then decide to apply elsewhere and get drawn, my 5 points at PI are still valid?

NO. They are quota hunt specific. The Elk quota hunt is a seperate quota hunt from the WMA quota hunt.

If you are drawn for ANY WMA hunt, your priority points will reset to zero for the next year.
 
TAFKAP said:
QuotaLady said:
These are commonly asked questions and inaccuracies I hear all the time. If I left something out or if you think of a question I didn't answer here, let me know. :)

QL

So by your explanation, "priority points" are location specific?

If I put in year after year to where I have 5 points at Presidents Island, then decide to apply elsewhere and get drawn, my 5 points at PI are still valid?

no. they are not location specific
 
Great post with one ? So say ive accumulated 4 priority points and I fail to submit an application the next yr, based on your post I DONT lose my previously accumulated points?
I was under the impression if you missed a yr your points went back to zero? If not, how long will the system hold my points (how long can I go without applying at all and still keep my points for when I do decide to apply again)?
 
Winchester said:
Great post with one ? So say ive accumulated 4 priority points and I fail to submit an application the next yr, based on your post I DONT lose my previously accumulated points?
I was under the impression if you missed a yr your points went back to zero? If not, how long will the system hold my points (how long can I go without applying at all and still keep my points for when I do decide to apply again)?
and add 'has it always been this way?'
 
eddie c said:
Winchester said:
Great post with one ? So say ive accumulated 4 priority points and I fail to submit an application the next yr, based on your post I DONT lose my previously accumulated points?
I was under the impression if you missed a yr your points went back to zero? If not, how long will the system hold my points (how long can I go without applying at all and still keep my points for when I do decide to apply again)?
and add 'has it always been this way?'

I can't say that it has always been that way. I can only say that it has been that way since I took on the challenge of managing the quota hunt program in January 2006.
 
Winchester said:
Great post with one ? So say ive accumulated 4 priority points and I fail to submit an application the next yr, based on your post I DONT lose my previously accumulated points?
I was under the impression if you missed a yr your points went back to zero? If not, how long will the system hold my points (how long can I go without applying at all and still keep my points for when I do decide to apply again)?

Winchester, I honesly don't have an answer to your question. I will make some inquiries and try to find out. :)
 
QuotaLady said:
Winchester said:
Great post with one ? So say ive accumulated 4 priority points and I fail to submit an application the next yr, based on your post I DONT lose my previously accumulated points?
I was under the impression if you missed a yr your points went back to zero? If not, how long will the system hold my points (how long can I go without applying at all and still keep my points for when I do decide to apply again)?

Winchester, I honesly don't have an answer to your question. I will make some inquiries and try to find out. :)
Great, and thanks for the reply.
 
I have a question about priority points, if your application is unsuccessful and you get leftover permits do you loose your priority points?
 
Please forgive me for what may be a very stupid question but I can't seem to find this answer anywhere else.

Can you explain how hunt parties work in the quota hunt system? I'm specifically trying to understand how joining a party affects your chances of being drawn. For example, if there is a 50 hunter quota and a party of 10 is drawn are there only 40 spots remaining? Or do all 10 hunters only count towards 1 of the 50?

If it is the former, then it doesn't seem fair to those who apply alone because a single party could use up a large number of spots. If it is the latter, it seems the woods could get overly congested if a few large parties are selected, thereby affecting everyone's chances of taking game the day of the hunt.

Not complaining, just trying to understand whether I should be forming my own party. Thanks.
 
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