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Grizzly Johnson

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things couldn't get any worse.....

Reported in the news today:


A growing split in the Republican Party deepened today when Clint Eastwood, the movie star who rocked the GOP convention by interviewing an invisible President Obama, joined the ranks of Republicans who are in favor of legalizing gay marriage.

The support for gay marriage by Eastwood and about 100 prominent Republicans, along with budding support within the party for immigration reform, is creating an obvious divide in the party. It pits moderate Republicans and party operatives on one side against conservative activists who drive turnout in the primary elections.



So long Clint.... no use for you!!
 

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The Republican party is struggling with something the Democrat party has figured out - how to keep all or most of their various factions happy enough to support a single candidate. Within the Republican party you have a few groups:

1. Socially Conservative and Economically Conservative voters - these are the purest Republicans, but I don't think there are enough of them around anymore to win national elections and certain State elections on their own.

2. Socially Conservative and Economically Liberal voters - I believe these folks are more common than you might think. I think there are some of them on this site. Many union folks fall into this category. They are generally God-fearing people who staunchly oppose socially liberal positions like gay marriage and abortion, but at the same time they may support unions, government entitlements, taxing the rich more, etc. They don't care so much about the national debt and they don't want Social Security or Medicare messed with. The 2nd Amendment, the Right to Life and traditional marriage are more important to them. Many Southern Democrats fell into this category decades ago before they became Republicans.

3. Socially Liberal and Economically Conservative voters - these folks are more common in the Northeast, parts of the upper Midwest and all throughout the West except Utah. They are very concerned about the size of government. One of their primary concerns is the national debt and deficit spending. They don't like Obamacare and are disgusted by the gradual drift towards Western European socialism. They want Social Security and Medicare reformed even if it means a reduction in benefits for them and their families. They are more than willing to cut defense spending to reduce the deficit. They may not be very religious. They may be somewhat or completely "pro-choice". They may be fine with gay marriage. They may support legalizing marijuana. They may support some gun control. They may not want to deport all or any illegal immigrants.

4. Socially Liberal and Economically Liberal voters - these people are Democrats masquerading as Republicans and are absolutely worthless. It would be better for everyone if they all moved to Western Europe.

These days it is challenging for a national Republican candidate to bring enough people in these different factions together to beat a Democrat. I hope and pray that the Republican party nominates someone in 2016 who can do that.
 

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Vermin93 said:
The Republican party is struggling with something the Democrat party has figured out - how to keep all or most of their various factions happy enough to support a single candidate. Within the Republican party you have a few groups:

1. Socially Conservative and Economically Conservative voters - these are the purest Republicans, but I don't think there are enough of them around anymore to win national elections and certain State elections on their own.

2. Socially Conservative and Economically Liberal voters - I believe these folks are more common than you might think. I think there are some of them on this site. Many union folks fall into this category. They are generally God-fearing people who staunchly oppose socially liberal positions like gay marriage and abortion, but at the same time they may support unions, government entitlements, taxing the rich more, etc. They don't care so much about the national debt and they don't want Social Security or Medicare messed with. The 2nd Amendment, the Right to Life and traditional marriage are more important to them. Many Southern Democrats fell into this category decades ago before they became Republicans.

3. Socially Liberal and Economically Conservative voters - these folks are more common in the Northeast, parts of the upper Midwest and all throughout the West except Utah. They are very concerned about the size of government. One of their primary concerns is the national debt and deficit spending. They don't like Obamacare and are disgusted by the gradual drift towards Western European socialism. They want Social Security and Medicare reformed even if it means a reduction in benefits for them and their families. They are more than willing to cut defense spending to reduce the deficit. They may not be very religious. They may be somewhat or completely "pro-choice". They may be fine with gay marriage. They may support legalizing marijuana. They may support some gun control. They may not want to deport all or any illegal immigrants.

4. Socially Liberal and Economically Liberal voters - these people are Democrats masquerading as Republicans and are absolutely worthless. It would be better for everyone if they all moved to Western Europe.

These days it is challenging for a national Republican candidate to bring enough people in these different factions together to beat a Democrat. I hope and pray that the Republican party nominates someone in 2016 who can do that.

So which one are you? Or are y'all?
 

Vermin93

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BlountArrow said:
So which one are you? Or are y'all?

I am a mix of 1 and 3. I am very economically conservative and mostly socially conservative. I have a few positions that are socially liberal. That being said, I may as well be a 1 because I have never voted for a single Democrat in my life and I don't see myself ever doing so. I won't knowingly date one, either.
 

catman529

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I will never support same sex marriage, or any marriage outside of one man and one woman.... However, I agree with birddog. More important things to worry about than two queers wearing rings.
 

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it is a non issue with me. don't affect me one way or another. and i guess i have some other socially liberal feelings.however,i do not support cuts in defense spending, i am NOT in support of ANY gun control and would love to see every illegal alien deported.
 

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"The Republican party is struggling with something the Democrat party has figured out - how to keep all or most of their various factions happy enough to support a single candidate."

Yes they are. Just support everything and everybody, while lying to everyone all the while...the democrat way. Looks like they're figuring it out alright. :(
 

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birddog said:
I still say this country has much much much more important things worry about than who is marrying who.

Yep

MUP said:
"The Republican party is struggling with something the Democrat party has figured out - how to keep all or most of their various factions happy enough to support a single candidate."

Excellent point.
 

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