I don't know about you, But (ammo prices)

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I don't know about you but when all this ammo craze comes to a stop and prices come back down to normal. The gun shops that jacked their prices up wont be on my list of places to do business anymore.
Some shops I go into the prices are still around normal, other gun shops have doubbled or trippled their prices for the same type ammo.
These shops wont be getting any of my business now or when this comes to an end.
In Fact I think I will start asking why the high prices? and see what they tell me, and my come back will be but the shop across town prices are still the same, why are yours trippled?
 

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Yep, same here.

Final Flight got some 17 HMR ammo in the other day.
Friend of mine was there and bought a few boxes.
Think they were $11.99 same price they have always been.

That means alot to me.
 

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What makes you think prices will be coming down? I think it's going to be like gas prices. Once they go up to certain levels and the public is used to paying those prices, they never come back down. I think these prices are here to stay, unfortunately.
 

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fairchaser said:
What makes you think prices will be coming down? I think it's going to be like gas prices. Once they go up to certain levels and the public is used to paying those prices, they never come back down. I think these prices are here to stay, unfortunately.
I agree we have seen this befor.
 

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fairchaser said:
What makes you think prices will be coming down? I think it's going to be like gas prices. Once they go up to certain levels and the public is used to paying those prices, they never come back down. I think these prices are here to stay, unfortunately.
I don't agree,prices shot up like this right after Obama got elected the first time.And prices came back down.There will be some stores that keep their prices high,but for the most part,the price will eventually come back down.
 

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Better check the NEW factory prices that are coming out before you decide on what to do and where.

The prices WILL come down but NOT to the same normal we had before. The "new normal" will be 10-15% higher than we used to pay.
 

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fairchaser said:
What makes you think prices will be coming down? I think it's going to be like gas prices. Once they go up to certain levels and the public is used to paying those prices, they never come back down. I think these prices are here to stay, unfortunately.

Because of places just like Final Flight that have not gone up.
Only the Greedy gun shop owners are jacking prices up. The prices are still the same. Greed is raising prices not the Ammo manufacturers!!
 

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I am going to start telling these greedy gun shops that they have forever lost my business an I suggest everyone here does the same. instead of buying into their greed and by doing so making them think it is okay to do so.
 

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Some of you seem to have a problem grasping basic economics. If you want to think raising prices is all about greed, well - there's probably not much I can say to convince you there is a whole lot more to it.

$100 CTD Pmags? Yeah, that's the absurd end of the spectrum. But when demand goes up and supply goes down, price WILL go up to curb demand which then lets supply come back up which then lets prices come back down.

So all those shops who are "keeping prices low" - all they are doing is allowing demand to stay high (people will keep hoarding as long as it's cheap enough to do so), which further keeps supply LOW.

IMHO, the best thing that could happen right now is let the market work by prices going up to a point where it curbs demand so supply can catch up.
 

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-DRM- said:
Some of you seem to have a problem grasping basic economics. If you want to think raising prices is all about greed, well - there's probably not much I can say to convince you there is a whole lot more to it.

$100 CTD Pmags? Yeah, that's the absurd end of the spectrum. But when demand goes up and supply goes down, price WILL go up to curb demand which then lets supply come back up which then lets prices come back down.

So all those shops who are "keeping prices low" - all they are doing is allowing demand to stay high (people will keep hoarding as long as it's cheap enough to do so), which further keeps supply LOW.

IMHO, the best thing that could happen right now is let the market work by prices going up to a point where it curbs demand so supply can catch up.

What you say makes sense to some degree, But I don't think the gun shop owners that have raised their prices thought it out this way. I seriously doubt they think they are doing us a favor. I say it is 100% Greed and nothing else.
 

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Same thing when a disaster stricks, say a hurricane. Gas, food, plywood, sheetrock, and generators prices all go through the roof! That's all greed, it has nothing to do with the store owners thinking I better raise my prices to help these poor people out.

To me your logic sounds like something my Liberal friends would say. I don't mean that in a hateful way, I don't even know you.
It just sounds like Liberal Logic to me.

For your logic to work it needs to start with the manufacturer as they know the supply and demand better than anyone else. Not leave it up to the gun shops to decide.
 

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Short term, the problem is everyone, or at least an awful lot of people, believe they need to increase their stash to very substantial levels. Higher prices and shortages are doing nothing to convince them otherwise. As others have noted, just lay off buying anything and eventually the hoarders and re-sellers will reach the point where further purchases will not be made. Any business that is taking advantage of this spike need to be told FTF that you are taking your cash elsewhere if there is no rollback.

This is the same as always. We stand together on an issue or the opposition will win. They get enough wins, we can lose in a way no one wants to see.
 

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Slaughter-06 said:
Same thing when a disaster stricks, say a hurricane. Gas, food, plywood, sheetrock, and generators prices all go through the roof! That's all greed, it has nothing to do with the store owners thinking I better raise my prices to help these poor people out.

To me your logic sounds like something my Liberal friends would say. I don't mean that in a hateful way, I don't even know you.
It just sounds like Liberal Logic to me.

For your logic to work it needs to start with the manufacturer as they know the supply and demand better than anyone else. Not leave it up to the gun shops to decide.

Sorry Slaughter but YOUR posts here and the logic you have used sounds just like a liberal.

A liberal HATES market prices that are fixed by supply and demand, liberals call that GREED.

"When a disaster stricks, say a hurricane. Gas, food, plywood, sheetrock, and generators" the prices ARE set by supply and demand. Disater happens, ALL the people DEMAND those but the SUPPLY is only there for the REGULAR sells numbers. DEMAND went up and SUPPLY is short so PRICES go up.

Liberals HATE that and they DEMAND that something be done by taking from others to help them. They want the govt to set prices just like they did in the USSR.
 

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Why should they lower their prices, they have found out that we will pay the higher prices. I hope the prices go back down but where they will or not only time will tell.
 

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One other thing people must remember.

Go look at the RECORD of new gun sales and now look at the RECORD of NEW CCW classes across the US.

That tells me that not only have the regular gun people have bought new guns but we now have some more NEW people buying guns at the same time. Those NEW people will be wanting the ammo for their new guns JUST LIKE WE DO.

That is NEW DEMAND for ammo we did not have to deal with before.

New "normal" prices will tak over after things cool dowm.
 

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Wildcat said:
Slaughter-06 said:
Same thing when a disaster stricks, say a hurricane. Gas, food, plywood, sheetrock, and generators prices all go through the roof! That's all greed, it has nothing to do with the store owners thinking I better raise my prices to help these poor people out.

To me your logic sounds like something my Liberal friends would say. I don't mean that in a hateful way, I don't even know you.
It just sounds like Liberal Logic to me. For your logic to work it needs to start with the manufacturer as they know the supply and demand better than anyone else. Not leave it up to the gun shops to decide.

Sorry Slaughter but YOUR posts here and the logic you have used sounds just like a liberal.

A liberal HATES market prices that are fixed by supply and demand, liberals call that GREED.

"When a disaster stricks, say a hurricane. Gas, food, plywood, sheetrock, and generators" the prices ARE set by supply and demand. Disater happens, ALL the people DEMAND those but the SUPPLY is only there for the REGULAR sells numbers. DEMAND went up and SUPPLY is short so PRICES go up.

Liberals HATE that and they DEMAND that something be done by taking from others to help them. They want the govt to set prices just like they did in the USSR.

I stand corrected, maybe I will vote for Hillery next time around. ;)
 

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Wildcat said:
Slaughter-06 said:
Same thing when a disaster stricks, say a hurricane. Gas, food, plywood, sheetrock, and generators prices all go through the roof! That's all greed, it has nothing to do with the store owners thinking I better raise my prices to help these poor people out.

To me your logic sounds like something my Liberal friends would say. I don't mean that in a hateful way, I don't even know you.
It just sounds like Liberal Logic to me.

For your logic to work it needs to start with the manufacturer as they know the supply and demand better than anyone else. Not leave it up to the gun shops to decide.

Sorry Slaughter but YOUR posts here and the logic you have used sounds just like a liberal.

A liberal HATES market prices that are fixed by supply and demand, liberals call that GREED.

"When a disaster stricks, say a hurricane. Gas, food, plywood, sheetrock, and generators" the prices ARE set by supply and demand. Disater happens, ALL the people DEMAND those but the SUPPLY is only there for the REGULAR sells numbers. DEMAND went up and SUPPLY is short so PRICES go up.

Liberals HATE that and they DEMAND that something be done by taking from others to help them. They want the govt to set prices just like they did in the USSR.

I see what you are saying Wildcat but I disagree.
When something like a disaster happens, yes demand goes through the roof.
Yes prices go up but not because of supply and demand.
The generators they had in stock for over a year double in price overnight because of demand? No sir, they go up because the store owners know people will pay double the price.
Price gouging, theft, whatever you want to call it, but it is not supply and demand.

When a store gets ammo in that is 10% higher than the last order they got in (assuming it went up at all) and they price it 2 or 300% higher, that is not supply and demand either.

I ain't very bright so I could be wrong.
Either way my demand will remain at zero if a brick of lead head 22's stay at $50 + per brick.
 

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Those that want to keep prices high are free to do so. But when the supply is repaired and they are the only one's charging 2x-3x what everyone else is charging, they simply won't sell any. That is there choice.

There is no "Greed" involved. You cannot consistently sell something for more than it's worth. If someone pays too much for ammo, it's not the seller's fault. It's THEIR' s.

"Predatory ammo sellers?"

Seriously?
 

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RUGER said:
Wildcat said:
Slaughter-06 said:
Same thing when a disaster stricks, say a hurricane. Gas, food, plywood, sheetrock, and generators prices all go through the roof! That's all greed, it has nothing to do with the store owners thinking I better raise my prices to help these poor people out.

To me your logic sounds like something my Liberal friends would say. I don't mean that in a hateful way, I don't even know you.
It just sounds like Liberal Logic to me.

For your logic to work it needs to start with the manufacturer as they know the supply and demand better than anyone else. Not leave it up to the gun shops to decide.

Sorry Slaughter but YOUR posts here and the logic you have used sounds just like a liberal.

A liberal HATES market prices that are fixed by supply and demand, liberals call that GREED.

"When a disaster stricks, say a hurricane. Gas, food, plywood, sheetrock, and generators" the prices ARE set by supply and demand. Disater happens, ALL the people DEMAND those but the SUPPLY is only there for the REGULAR sells numbers. DEMAND went up and SUPPLY is short so PRICES go up.

Liberals HATE that and they DEMAND that something be done by taking from others to help them. They want the govt to set prices just like they did in the USSR.

I see what you are saying Wildcat but I disagree.
When something like a disaster happens, yes demand goes through the roof.
Yes prices go up but not because of supply and demand.
The generators they had in stock for over a year double in price overnight because of demand? No sir, they go up because the store owners know people will pay double the price.
Price gouging, theft, whatever you want to call it, but it is not supply and demand.

When a store gets ammo in that is 10% higher than the last order they got in (assuming it went up at all) and they price it 2 or 300% higher, that is not supply and demand either.

I ain't very bright so I could be wrong.
Either way my demand will remain at zero if a brick of lead head 22's stay at $50 + per brick.

Remember the ice storm??

The ONLY people the state of Kentucky found breaking the law was the ones that drove to other states and bought gas to sell ABOVE MARKET PRICES.

No business in Paducah was caught breaking the law on prices ever though their prices went though the roof.

Think about this a minute. You work for a company that makes and sells lawnnowers. Don't you think they would be happy to be able to sell each one wholesale for $1 million each?? The workers would be able to be paid $20,000 an hour and everything would be paid for by the company and everybody would be happy.

The ONLY thing stopping that from happening is NOBODY will pay those prices. That is the only thing stopping it, there is no law against it.

The mowers do not get sold so the company lowers and lowers the prices until people start buying it. Once people start buying it then it's the new "market" price.

The "market price" is set by the people that buy it, it's the price they are WILLING TO PAY.
 

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I see what you are saying as well Crappie.
The only time this whole ordeal has affected me was when I wanted to go squirrel hunting with my .22 and there was no ammo to be found.

I did the right thing and instead of paying what they had it priced at I used a shotgun instead. :D
 

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