Coyotes at night

09FX4 said:
I personally have AGM 640 resolution thermals and I've been very happy with them. Guys I hunt with use either AGM, Pulsar or Iray. It really comes down to personal preference like anything else but try and get your hands on some different brands before you actually purchase one. Several new ones came out at shot show last week that look very good.
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Man how do feel about your AGM? Ive been looking at them and Pulsar as the two options and it's beyond difficult to decide. I know Pulsar is made in Lithuania, and could never get an answer on AGM. Some said a place in Colorado, some said China.
 
MickThompson said:
It doesn't take long to swing a shotgun for sure

I'm thinking you find it in the thermal so you know where to light up
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I have been busted by so many with a light that i gave up on it. Im sure it was something i was doing wrong. Like you were saying though, i have been considering trying to track one with a scanner until he is close enough and then hit him with that FLASH-BANG! Spotlight and Benelli combo!!!
 
I haven't tried it with coyotes, but I have a hand held night vision (not thermal) device that I use for hogs. It was very cheap, <$100, but I can see at least 150 yards. After locating the hogs, I get the rifle pointed in the general direction and hit the green light mounted on my scope. It's a poor man's setup, but I make it work.
 
kastaliankiote870 said:
Man how do feel about your AGM? Ive been looking at them and Pulsar as the two options and it's beyond difficult to decide. I know Pulsar is made in Lithuania, and could never get an answer on AGM. Some said a place in Colorado, some said China.
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I've been happy with them. Only real complaint has been the Laser rangefinder at times. I hunted a cattle farm last night and it took a little longer than I liked to get the range at one point. I've noticed if I range something right after I power it on then it typically works better. I had the original Varmint 35-640 and the spring in the bottom of the battery compt broke. I contacted customer service on a Monday, shipped it out same day and had a brand new upgraded Varmint 2 model which is the most updated model on Thursday. I had a hunt that weekend so they shipped me the new one over night. Best customer service I've ever dealt with.
 
kastaliankiote870 said:
Im wondering also how this situation would go? Most hunters i have asked insist the coyote would take off like a rocket when spotlighted. I like to think he would atleast be froze up if only for 2 seconds. if you got him in at 30 yards or so then lit him up it might not matter if he bolted or paused anyway.
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Exactly. Works like a charm with 2 people. One spots with a thermal, ensures there are no other animals behind target, flip spotlight on when he is within 50y, and shooter smokes him.
 
WTM said:
so #4 magnum turkey load will kill them at say 25 yards? got scome coming in my driveway raising can at about 2am.
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Oh yeah. I've shot them with#5 turkey loads a bit farther and it was like they were struck by lightning. Hit the ground and not twitch.
 
09FX4 said:
I personally have AGM 640 resolution thermals and I've been very happy with them. Guys I hunt with use either AGM, Pulsar or Iray. It really comes down to personal preference like anything else but try and get your hands on some different brands before you actually purchase one. Several new ones came out at shot show last week that look very good.
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We got my father in law this AGM 640. It is very impressive! But for my eyes, I can see through my pulsar better
 
WTM said:
so #4 magnum turkey load will kill them at say 25 yards? got scome coming in my driveway raising can at about 2am.
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Oh yea. My cousin shot one at 70 yards with a 10g turkey load. 25 yards it would work with just about any gauge.

Does anyone know if you can use steel shot on them? I haven't read the regs, but if so, that's a killer
 
Well lead shot has always been better than steel shot imo but if that's what I had to use I would use, been a lot of critters killed with rabbit and bird shot. they kill ducks and geese with steel at pretty far ranges.
 
JCDEERMAN said:
Oh yea. My cousin shot one at 70 yards with a 10g turkey load. 25 yards it would work with just about any gauge.

Does anyone know if you can use steel shot on them? I haven't read the regs, but if so, that's a killer
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Regs don't specify shot material that I can see. I reckon you could sling depleted uranium if you were so moved
 
kastaliankiote870 said:
Man how do feel about your AGM? Ive been looking at them and Pulsar as the two options and it's beyond difficult to decide. I know Pulsar is made in Lithuania, and could never get an answer on AGM. Some said a place in Colorado, some said China.
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I recently bought a Rix L6. I aslo have a Pulsar Thermion Pro XQ50. The Rix is 640 and it is incredible. It also has an optical zoom which most thermals do not have.
 
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I bought one of these a few months ago on whim and it's impressive for $120.

I've been thinking about getting out one night with it and my semi automatic 12 gauge.
 
kastaliankiote870 said:
Got 250 cows with calves and atleast that many coyotes that will go after them. I have been told that a farmer/ livestock producer has " no limitations to protecting his livestock" . My question is would no limitations include putting them down with a rifle at night and a particular night time optic?
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You shoot all the coyotes you want to with a spotlight or a thermal.
 
thehoytman said:
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You shoot all the coyotes you want to with a spotlight or a thermal.
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As long as you can document the damage they are causing, probably good to go. Shooting before there is any damage, maybe not.

And, if you are not dealing with damage to domestic animals, maybe not as well.

The statute isn't black and white.
 
kastaliankiote870 said:
Got 250 cows with calves and atleast that many coyotes that will go after them. I have been told that a farmer/ livestock producer has " no limitations to protecting his livestock" . My question is would no limitations include putting them down with a rifle at night and a particular night time optic?
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Best to check your state specific laws, but in many rural areas, livestock owners can use night optics and rifles to protect their animals . Just make sure it's legal in your jurisdiction.
 
kastaliankiote870 said:
Got 250 cows with calves and atleast that many coyotes that will go after them. I have been told that a farmer/ livestock producer has " no limitations to protecting his livestock" . My question is would no limitations include putting them down with a rifle at night and a particular night time optic?
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"Free men don't ask for permission"

But if you must ask, you should be able to get it.

I have a good buddy in W TN that kills them all year w rifles and thermals and it was blessed by his local officer.
 

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