Coon Dog Protocol; what is it?

[ferg]

Had a couple of guys come to my porch last night around 2030, asking could they park in my drive and get the coon dogs that had one treed behind my place.

I could hear the dogs, but they were at least 3 or 4 ridges over from 'behind my place' -

So I told them how to get around the back side of the property, but that it wasn't mine.

About 30 or 40 minutes later the dogs got quite, so I'm guessing they got them out OK.

But what are the rules/laws of this event?

How does trespass fit in?

I know nothing about it so I'm asking?

I'd rather dogs NOT run my property at night for any reason, but I was kind about it as I didn't know the protocol(s).

(I did answer the door with my .45 and made certain they saw it, out where I'm at folks don't just 'drop in' at 2030.)

ferg....

 

[Nimrod777]

Heck Ferg, if you answered the door in clothes at all, I'd say you went above and beyond!

 

[scn]

They have to have the landowners permission to go on the property and retrieve their dogs.

By TN law it is not trespass for their hunting dogs to be on your property without your permission. It becomes a trespass issue if they go on your land to retrieve their dogs without your permission.

 

[ferg]

Man SCN, that could an issue, where they were last night there's an area where 7 land owners come together - there would be no way they could be sure which property they would end up on (not knowing for sure where the dogs had treed the coon)-

Interesting - can they 'take' the raccoon when retrieving their dogs on property with permission (to get dogs, not hunt?)

And more over, seems like it would be major pain to run dogs at night, THEN, after the fact, try to get permission to get them after they have treed a coon -

Makes me wonder if they had not seen my bedroom light on (10 minutes later it would have been off) if they would have parked down the road some and just gone ahead to get their dogs -

Hmmmmm - guess I'll just have to be more vigilant in the future and 'see' what happens next -

Thanks

ferg....

 

[TENN.BOY]

You have to get permission from the land owner to go get your dogs.If you turn the dogs loose on one farm and they tree on the nxt farm down YOU ARE NOT SUPPOSED GO GET THEM WITHOUT PERMISSION or get the coon either.The landowner can charge you with trespassing.But at least the guys did come and ask you go get them,they were trying to do the right thing.Would you rahter them wake you up at 2:30 and ask or just go get them without?Im asking because i coon hunt alot myself .

 

[ferg]

You have to get permission from the land owner to go get your dogs.If you turn the dogs loose on one farm and they tree on the nxt farm down YOU ARE NOT SUPPOSED GO GET THEM WITHOUT PERMISSION or get the coon either.The landowner can charge you with trespassing.But at least the guys did come and ask you go get them,they were trying to do the right thing.Would you rahter them wake you up at 2:30 and ask or just go get them without?Im asking because i coon hunt alot myself .

I would want to be aware that you were on the property - I try to be supportive of all hunting - I guess my issue, if I have one, is there was no way to know who's property the dogs were really on - I could tell by the sound, because I'm used to it out there, that they were farther across the ridges than they thought when the asked be to get them from 'behind my house' - so it would have been someone else that needed to give permission - but, yea, to answer the question - yea I want to know -

Mostly because, if I happen to be up ( and I am frequently ) and see lights going up my ridge, I'll be making some assumptions and be in pursuit pretty quick

 

[riverfisher]

people come on our land all the time and get there dogs,and i used to do the same when i coon hunted all the time.i guess it just depends on the region you live in and what people are used to.never has been any problem around here for people to go get there dogs and as long as i own land it never will be.like i said all areas and people are different.

 

[fishboy1]

I would love to go on a night time coon hunt someday.
I would love to go South and run dogs for deer and hogs too.

Got real mixed feelings about the whole uninvited "guests" issues though. As a landowner I don't want ANYBODY (or their animals) on my property for ANY REASON without my express permission.

I dont agree with any stupid laws making ME liable in any way for unauthorized access to my property by ANYONE OR ANYTHING.

Coon hunters in our area are BAD about putting dogs out on a 50-100 ac property then "Oooops! sorry but our dogs don't understand property boundaries" and going wherever they please.

I love hunting and don't want anymore laws making it harder for people to hunt.

 

[leader]

I thought the thread said

"Corn dog protocol" so I was let down when I opened it.

I don't want ANYONE on my property without me knowing, but I understand coon hunting and have done it. The respectful coon hunters are good as gold. Just like any hunters ( including deer) there are good and bad.
That being said I'd someone woke me up at 2:30, I woul be startled, upset, and MAD.
If you have good dogs you can get them to go where you want.

 

[Coach]

Not sure why but the title "Coon Dog Protocol" sure makes me chuckle

 

[Redwing]

He said 2030, so that's like 8:30 right? You have a better chance of survival if you trespass than knocking on my door at 2:30am

 

[TENN.BOY]

I talked to some friends this morning about this thread and they said there is a right to retreave law that you can go get your dog without getting permission first,but im not sure so im going to check with the local game wardens a find out for sure.Thats what i was told so you can take it with a grain of salt.But i would rather ask,cause that what i would want someone to do if there dog was on my place no matter what time it is.Becuase you dont never know these days who is out there messing around!!!!!!!

 

[NOPRO]

there is no retreave law you have to have premission. but coon hunters dont worry about that. one good thing about coon hunters the always have trail cams for sale (cheap).

 

[scn]

I talked to some friends this morning about this thread and they said there is a right to retreave law that you can go get your dog without getting permission first,but im not sure so im going to check with the local game wardens a find out for sure.Thats what i was told so you can take it with a grain of salt.But i would rather ask,cause that what i would want someone to do if there dog was on my place no matter what time it is.Becuase you dont never know these days who is out there messing around!!!!!!!

The only right to retrieve in TN is on a TWRA managaement area, and certain WMAs under federal regulation would still be off limits.

Hunters do not have the right to retrieve their dogs without permission on any private lands in TN.