Alot of thinking / learning lately....(Religious)

93civEJ1

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So lately, with the passing of my father in law, I have gotten a tugging at me to learn more about our God and his son Jesus. I have grown up in church and as a Christian, but here lately havent attended or really participated in keeping up with learning or being a very Christian person.

So tonight, I watched a show on Crucifixion on the history channel. My wife and I also bought some new Bibles today to replace our others. We bought some study versions.

Now, here is where my mind starts to wonder. What proof is there that Jesus ever existed? I dont want to start a debate, I just know we have only word in the Bible. Believe me, I believe he existed. I just have my thoughts about has anyone ever proved or shown an exact existing of such a loving person.
 

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First im sorry about the passing of your father in law. On the second one.Well i would rather serve God and then find out there wasnt one then not serve God and find out there is one.I been in church for over 20 years and i am a usher in the church i attend for 17 years now. God Bless you and the family.
 

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smokepolemonky said:
First im sorry about the passing of your father in law. On the second one.Well i would rather serve God and then find out there wasnt one then not serve God and find out there is one.I been in church for over 20 years and i am a usher in the church i attend for 17 years now. God Bless you and the family.

Thanks I appreciate it. I know what you mean on serving and then finding out. I am a true believer. Im just interested I guess in the history and facts. (If there are any outside of Bible scripture)
 

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A few of the disciples even had their doubts too and they even walked beside jesus and saw his miracles with their own eyes, but in the end its all about having"FAITH"in him.Look at Peter as he stepped out the boat to reach out for jesus.
 

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The foundation of Christianity is Faith. I am sorry about your f.i.l passing. Faith isn't about believing what you see, it's about believing what you can't see.
 

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I believe there were in fact some small Roman mentions of a healer among the Jews. Remember the two groups that might have written about Jesus were the Jews and the Romans. The Jews did not want him remembered and to the Romans he was just a small time criminal they crucified. The literally crucified people by the thousands. The bible contains the writings of a number of people who knew him well, its like you finding something about your great grandfather or great great. You are unlikely to find much and its likely to be something written by family members. There are lots of references in Roman writings about the Christians starting when there were still people alive who had seen Christ. That the Romans accepted he was a real person is also proof he lived.
 

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Wasn't it Jocephus that mentioned Christ in his writings?

FWIW- there are some things in the bible that I struggle with as well.
 

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Tacitus hated both Christians and their namesake, Christ. He therefore had nothing positive to say about what he referred to as a �deadly superstition.� He did, however, have something to say about it. His testimony establishes beyond any reasonable doubt that the Christian religion not only was relevant historically, but that Christ, as its originator, was a verifiable historical figure of such prominence that He even attracted the attention of the Roman emperor himself!

http://www.apologeticspress.org/apconte ... rticle=187
 

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I decided when I got sick 5 months ago I was gonna read the bible all the way through. I am almost there and have learned more about the Bible and Christian ways in 5 months than I had my whole life. I have really enjoyed it been great learning.
 

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eweisner said:
If you have Netflix check out "The Case for Christ" for Lee Strobel

I think I may have actually watched that one a while back. Ill have to go back and look and see if its the same one or not.
 

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jos3ywales said:
I decided when I got sick 5 months ago I was gonna read the bible all the way through. I am almost there and have learned more about the Bible and Christian ways in 5 months than I had my whole life. I have really enjoyed it been great learning.

Yeah, I want to as well...Just I think in the past its kind of hard to follow if you try from front to back.

I am hoping having a study version will help.
 

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The biography of Jesus is historical, and far from being a faith issue. While there's no library of Congress as far as volumes of history surviving from that period, there is plenty, and from non-Christian writers. To not believe that Jesus existed is tantamount to believing that George Washington didn't exist. In fact, more period specific writing exists for the former than the latter!

The faith issue is whether or not Jesus was a Christ, a Messiah, a Divinely-sent and -origined Son of God. To satisfactorily answer that takes a lot of study, but more than one modern writer who set out to disprove the divinity of Jesus had their own mind's changed by the study. Lee Strobel's "The Case for Christ" would probably be one of the most enlightening and accessible reads for you. Josh McDowell has a large body of work, and if you're analytically minded, you might look at his "Evidence That Demands A Verdict."

There are many Christians who are not nearly as brain-dead and ignorantly superstitious as many secularists would like to believe.
 

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I bought the book by Lee Strobel. I enjoy being able to go back and look for things in the book. You will be able to follow it much better than a documentary.
 

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I was able to see Josh McDowell in Nashville 10 years ago. I must say he has a testimony to open up eyes! Very powerful statements that he had to prove to himself!
 

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