Alabama Doctor shares heartbreaking stories of patients begging for the vaccine while going on a vent

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Where do the doctors get their information? Heck even the doctors with information that is contrary to anything Lord Fauci says won't publicly speak out because the NIH funds just about everything and no one wants to lose their funding. Public debate between covid vaccine supporters vs covid vaccine skeptics would be a great start to relieving some peoples mistrust.
Bingo ! All the experts and specialists will fall in line with whoever pays to keep their lights on. Follow the money !
 

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Thats a pretty broad generalization for people who took the hypocratic oath.
Well, maybe not.
Look at all those career politicians who took the oath of office to serve our country,
but instead only serve themselves?

I do agree that most health care workers are honorable,
as are most people in general.

But many are not, and sometimes it seems the least honorable find their way into the top leadership positions.

I personally know physicians who will not speak publicly about their true sentiments concerning a variety of topics just because they could lose their jobs or get demoted for not being in lock-step with administrative policies and the administrators' politics.
 

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Thats a pretty broad generalization for people who took the hypocratic oath.
Well, maybe not.
Look at all those career politicians who took the oath of office to serve our country,
but instead only serve themselves?

I do agree that most health care workers are honorable,
as are most people in general.

But many are not, and sometimes it seems the least honorable find their way into the top leadership positions.

I personally know physicians who will not speak publicly about their true sentiments concerning a variety of topics just because they could lose their jobs or get demoted for not being in lock-step with administrative policies and the administrators' politics.
Thanks TheLBLman, you saved me some typing :)
 

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Here - same story - Small town Arkansas doctor.


MELBOURNE, Ark. (KAIT) - A Northeast Arkansas physician is begging patients to get vaccinated for COVID-19, if not for themselves for those they love.

Dr. Adam Gray is a family practice physician in Melbourne.

As of Friday morning, he said Izard County has gone from three active cases to 92.

“The delta variant is spreading like wildfire,” Gray said in a video shared by the Arkansas Department of Health. “I have, so far, lost 32 patients to COVID-19.”

Gray has consoled several people who contracted the virus then passed it on to someone else who has died.

“This is breaking my heart,” he said.

Currently, the doctor said a “very large percentage” of people in Arkansas that are hospitalized are under the age of 40.

Another thing they have in common: almost all are unvaccinated.
 

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Well, maybe not.
Look at all those career politicians who took the oath of office to serve our country,
but instead only serve themselves?

I do agree that most health care workers are honorable,
as are most people in general.

But many are not, and sometimes it seems the least honorable find their way into the top leadership positions.

I personally know physicians who will not speak publicly about their true sentiments concerning a variety of topics just because they could lose their jobs or get demoted for not being in lock-step with administrative policies and the administrators' politics.
It's just like the hydroxychloroquine thing.

I know 4 or 5 doctors who work at hospitals - the others are all family practice or specialty. Those at the hospital all tried HCQ. They've read the studies. They've treated patients. They do not currently use HCQ for most patients.

Why? It simply doesn't work as well as other drugs - there wre all kinds of problems with that last study (which was retrospective by the way) that people who do not understand research and methodology would not understand.

Invermectin is another story but it has to be started EARLY. What is killing people is a hyper-immune response. You can't wait until day 10.

And yet - here I am arguing with people who have no medical experience (not you)... "Have they tried Hydroxychloroquine?!?!".

It's non-sensical. I cannot even imagine trying to be a doctor in this current environment.

In some ways, this virus is now targeting a certain population that have refused masks and vaccinations and have promoted stupid theories and it's going to be a hell of an interesting next few months.

If we don't lose at least 1 or 2 members here I will be thankfully shocked.
 

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Shocking that the dept of health of a known unhealthy state pre covid posts a "commercial" to social media encouraging you buy what they are selling with the focal point being the ONLY ones dying is unvaxed. Im sure as one of THE WORST states for health prior to 2020 theres more to their situation than we are being told.
 

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It's just like the hydroxychloroquine thing.

I know 4 or 5 doctors who work at hospitals - the others are all family practice or specialty. Those at the hospital all tried HCQ. They've read the studies. They've treated patients. They do not currently use HCQ for most patients.

Why? It simply doesn't work as well as other drugs - there wre all kinds of problems with that last study (which was retrospective by the way) that people who do not understand research and methodology would not understand.

Invermectin is another story but it has to be started EARLY. What is killing people is a hyper-immune response. You can't wait until day 10.

And yet - here I am arguing with people who have no medical experience (not you)... "Have they tried Hydroxychloroquine?!?!".

It's non-sensical. I cannot even imagine trying to be a doctor in this current environment.

In some ways, this virus is now targeting a certain population that have refused masks and vaccinations and have promoted stupid theories and it's going to be a hell of an interesting next few months.

If we don't lose at least 1 or 2 members here I will be thankfully shocked.
Yes the virus will target those specifically that have ignored the liberal media's lies. It may take all us free thinkers out! I tell you what's interesting, watching you slip deeper and deeper into liberal madness 🤣
 

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It's just like the hydroxychloroquine thing.

I know 4 or 5 doctors who work at hospitals - the others are all family practice or specialty. Those at the hospital all tried HCQ. They've read the studies. They've treated patients. They do not currently use HCQ for most patients.

Why? It simply doesn't work as well as other drugs - there wre all kinds of problems with that last study (which was retrospective by the way) that people who do not understand research and methodology would not understand.

Invermectin is another story but it has to be started EARLY. What is killing people is a hyper-immune response. You can't wait until day 10.

And yet - here I am arguing with people who have no medical experience (not you)... "Have they tried Hydroxychloroquine?!?!".

It's non-sensical. I cannot even imagine trying to be a doctor in this current environment.

In some ways, this virus is now targeting a certain population that have refused masks and vaccinations and have promoted stupid theories and it's going to be a hell of an interesting next few months.

If we don't lose at least 1 or 2 members here I will be thankfully shocked.
HCQ has to be started early also. If they waited weeks before starting it - it doesn't work as well if at all. It also is to be used in concert with Zinc and a antibiotic. If the patient was at the hospital it was already too late for HCQ. Evidently the stuff they read was put out by the medical establishment. Goto Frontline Drs and read up on what those DRS have done with it. But they've been trashed by the medical establishment thanks to Fauci who hasn't treated a patient in 30 years.

As far as the comment about "And yet - here I am arguing with people who have no medical experience". Evidently common sense and other opinions outside of the pharmaceutical companies algorithms is a waste of time. I've cured skin cancer on myself at least 3 times using cur cumin - I've talked with two dermatologists who pooh poohed it. However their PAs or RNs were all ears..... So when one pops up I hit it and save myself and the govt a few hundred. I don't argue - I just tell them this worked and let them draw their own conclusions.
 
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I cannot even imagine trying to be a doctor in this current environment.
On that, we totally agree.

I spent some time this past Monday with one of the most peer-respected internal medicine physicians in TN. I suspect he's soon retiring years earlier than he had planned, and mainly over the politics that have consumed medicine (as well as most other industries & careers).
 

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HCQ has to be started early also. If they waited weeks before starting it - it doesn't work as well if at all. It also is to be used in concert with Zinc and a antibiotic. If the patient was at the hospital it was already too late for HCQ. Evidently the stuff they read was put out by the medical establishment. Goto Frontline Drs and read up on what those DRS have done with it. But they've been trashed by the medical establishment thanks to Fauci who hasn't treated a patient in 30 years.

As far as the comment about "And yet - here I am arguing with people who have no medical experience". Evidently common sense and other opinions outside of the pharmaceutical companies algorithms is a waste of time. I've cured skin cancer on myself at least 3 times using cur cumin - I've talked with two dermatologists who pooh poohed it. However their PAs or RNs were all ears..... So when one pops up I hit it and save myself and the govt a few hundred. I don't argue - I just tell them this worked and let them draw their own conclusions.
So imagine if the medical community would have started early letting people know about some of these alternative treatments and their timelines, as well as the prophylactics that had good potential to keep folks out of the ICU. But instead, those successfully treating patients are silenced, meds made illegal to prescribe, all by big tech and the Dems wanting control of the narrative.
 

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So imagine if the medical community would have started early letting people know about some of these alternative treatments and their timelines, as well as the prophylactics that had good potential to keep folks out of the ICU. But instead, those successfully treating patients are silenced, meds made illegal to prescribe, all by big tech and the Dems wanting control of the narrative.
I think so. I remember reading before the big silencing from some Drs who were on the "covid" floor in NYC at a large hospital saying they were taking HCQ successfully as a prophylactic. I have a close friend of mine's wife was on it for arthritis and he came down with a good case of the Covid and she didn't get even a touch. She was caring for him and they made no effort to separate. Drs who aren't glued to the "formula" and paying attention are having success. Its common sense. Don't they tell you to take Zycam within a few days of the first symptoms, its not medical nonsense to try and catch any disease early in the game. So I'm not a Dr but I'm not married to Big Pharma either. So if some Drs say its working you find out what they're doing. The fact is they have NOTHING to gain except for their patients by using it correctly. Whereas the other side has lots to lose by them using a drug which costs 50 cents a dose rather than several thousand. Follow the money - its been written the execs in these vaccine companies are laughing all the way to the bank.
 

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HCQ has to be started early also. If they waited weeks before starting it - it doesn't work as well if at all. It also is to be used in concert with Zinc and a antibiotic. If the patient was at the hospital it was already too late for HCQ. Evidently the stuff they read was put out by the medical establishment. Goto Frontline Drs and read up on what those DRS have done with it. But they've been trashed by the medical establishment thanks to Fauci who hasn't treated a patient in 30 years.

As far as the comment about "And yet - here I am arguing with people who have no medical experience". Evidently common sense and other opinions outside of the pharmaceutical companies algorithms is a waste of time. I've cured skin cancer on myself at least 3 times using cur cumin - I've talked with two dermatologists who pooh poohed it. However their PAs or RNs were all ears..... So when one pops up I hit it and save myself and the govt a few hundred. I don't argue - I just tell them this worked and let them draw their own conclusions.
Curcumin is great! I credit it for part of my recovery from COVID.
 

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So imagine if the medical community would have started early letting people know about some of these alternative treatments and their timelines, as well as the prophylactics that had good potential to keep folks out of the ICU. But instead, those successfully treating patients are silenced, meds made illegal to prescribe, all by big tech and the Dems wanting control of the narrative.
With respect Omega, I don't think its that simple. Doctors have a LOT of liability to worry about. They have to be able to justify recommendations and defend their choices. So they need data.

Starting back in the summer 2020, if you went to Hospital information websites about COVID-19, most of them had "What should I do If I get CV" sections. I know ours did. They all recommended variations of "Vitamin D, Vitamin C, melatonin" etc. Some even recommended Curcumin. So I think what you are referencing above is not the whole truth.

I'll give you the perfect example - we are big believers in Elderberry in my house (not only did my grandma tell me to use, but there are some really good double-blind studies that show it can shorten duration of viral illness).

BUT there is some data out there that suggests taking it once you already have COVID could *possibly* increase immune activity - which is great until it becomes too much and causes cytokine/bradykinin reactions.

It's a slippery slope.
 

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Yes the virus will target those specifically that have ignored the liberal media's lies. It may take all us free thinkers out! I tell you what's interesting, watching you slip deeper and deeper into liberal madness 🤣
I think it's ironic that you consider yourself a free thinkers - because your views and vernacular sound and awful lot like someone else....
 

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Curcumin is great! I credit it for part of my recovery from COVID.
I started taking that daily and vitamin D3 years ago. About 8,000IUs of D. Have never had any issues with it. I get newsletters from Dr Blaylock and used to from Marc Micozzi both very on the edge Drs yet both were fans of D before it became "the thing" and cur cumin.
 

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One thing for sure, you will not convince medical community that they could possibly be wrong until thousands die if even then (ala abortion). There are lots and lots of good doctors and other professionals in the medical community and I am personal friends with many of them, but to say the medical community is above reproach or beyond corruption is just plain silly. In like manner, nor are they all corrupt. But to silence through shame or bribery or loss of their jobs leads one to think there is something hinky going on. Every medical professional that offers something besides the status quo is labeled a quack, and everyone who toes the party line is held up as a paragon of virtue. No wonder there’s so much questioning going on.

megalomaniac is right, every single one of us is going to get immunity to Covid one way or the other, and your going to need to get immunity continually by shots or by infection for the rest of your life. How long will the covidinsanity go on?
 

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I personally know every doctor at our local hospital who treats inpatient covid (those sick enough to get admitted). Every single one of them makes decisions regarding treatment based on the BEST scientific evidence. Every one of them used plaquenil at some point (esp after there was preliminary evidence it might help last year) not a single one of them uses it now, simply because it has been proven to be less effective than other regimens, NOT because it is cheaper nor because any of them have a fiduciary interest in the other regimens which are more effective.

I find it greatly offensive so many of you insinuate or outright state those doctors doing everything they can to save lives have ANY other agenda or ulterior motive other than the well being of their patient. Just so you know, the majority of hospitalists are employed and paid by the hospital and are on a flat salary. In other words, they don't make a dime more when they are taking care of 10 covid patients in addition to all their other hospitalized non covid patients. Overworked, underpaid, exhausted, unappreciated by the public. 2 have already quit on the past year from burnout and have gone to caring for less sick patients in the clinic setting.

All this while my local hospital has TEN patients at this moment sitting in the ER just waiting on a bed to open up in the hospital so they can be moved to a room on the floor. The other hospital in town closed their ER yesterday for 12 hours because they couldn't handle any more.

Another young, perfectly healthy 32 week pregnant patient going down the tubes as we speak.

If your local area is experiencing another big wave, just stop by your local ER and see the $hitshow that is going on all over the place.

Good news here is that people are seeing what is going on and lining up at Walmart and CVS scrambling to get vaccinated. Bad news is it will be 5 weeks from now before they have maximum protection.
 

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