A year or so back I asked for a good recipe for a 165 gr accubond load for a 30-06 and a couple people said about 57 gr of H4350 would do it. I had my buddy Davidk load me up a hundred of these bad boys and they are absolutely fantastic. The first pic is last weekend at 200 yards and the other two pics are groups I've shot while practicing. I think old Davidk may know what he's doing.