Ive been shooting HTL(heavier than lead) loads for the past 5 years and have yet to shoot a longbeard over yards. I am really thinkin about going back to copper plated lead over the HTL loads due to price. Ive killed a truck load of gobblers with the old Winchester HV 3.5" 5s... really thinking about saving my money and going back to them. Who still shoots lead?