set up on this bird this morning about 60yds and him on roost. he was fired up.flew down and took bout 10 steps and at 30yds the ole 835 done its job. guys i tell u what it is hard getting around in the woods with all the legements and acl torn but i can do it thanks to the good LORD. this bird has 10 1/2" beard 1 1/16" spurs and 20lbs.first bird i ever killed with my dad there.