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#968675 - 10/14/08 09:58 AM TWRC and TWRA possibly the worst
AlabamaSwamper
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Fisheries agency in the country!

What in the heck was the TWRC thinking by taking the restrictions off paddle fish?

They put restrictions on some fish in some lakes with absolutely no data to back it up (like they time they were put on the spot about the 15" rule by the other two states in a meeting on Pickwick and the 34" rule on catfish) then they TWRC completely throws their hands up on the paddle fish battle.

Then again, the TWRC has shown no backbone. At least it appears the TWRA wasn't behind this one.


Edited by AlabamaSwamper (10/14/08 09:59 AM)
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#969081 - 10/14/08 01:27 PM Re: TWRC and TWRA possibly the worst [Re: AlabamaSwamper]
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What did they change it to? Is this for commercial fisherman or sport?
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#969130 - 10/14/08 02:08 PM Re: TWRC and TWRA possibly the worst [Re: trealtree]
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If you enjoy paddle fish and this don't change, you better catch them while you can because they will be extinct in Tennessee waters in the near future.

Let's all pray PETA don't file lawsuits to stop hunting because the TWRC will probably cave in to them.
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#969152 - 10/14/08 02:16 PM Re: TWRC and TWRA possibly the worst [Re: AlabamaSwamper]
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Tennessee Wildlife Resources Agency
Ovaries of a female paddlefish can weight 5 pounds or more, making a single paddlefish worth several hundreds of dollars.
NASHVILLE - The Tennessee Wildlife Resources Commission finally settled it's long-standing dispute with commercial fishermen: There are no more regulations on the harvesting of paddlefish.
While the commission voted to keep Watts Bar closed to commercial fishing, the TWRC surprised fishermen and Tennessee Wildlife Resources Agency biologists alike by removing size and season restrictions on paddlefish. The meetings Wednesday and Thursday at the TWRA's Region II office building were supposed to be a preview of the 2008-2009 commercial fishing regulations.
Instead, many of the regulations governing paddlefish were stripped from the books.
"We're getting out of the egg business," commissioner Boyce Magli of Franklin told the commercial fishermen at the meeting. "The discussion of paddlefish and our management of paddlefish takes up more time than any other two things we deal with.

HMMM, other states have the same problems but are responsible enough to deal with it and protect such a rare fish these days.


"It (The commission) has taken our eye off the ball."
During Wednesday's meeting of the Fisheries Management Committee Magli offered up an amendment to remove the restrictions. The vote was tied, but during a meeting of the full commission Thursday Magli again offered up the amendment and it passed.
Commercial fishermen have a lawsuit pending against TWRA concerning the agency's management practices, specifically those concerning paddlefish. While some of them were happy with the vote, others believe the commission went too far.
"We were only one inch and one week apart," said Chattanooga fishermen Alan Fine of the size limits and season lengths. "We want to work with the agency."
The action by the TWRC doesn't open lakes that are closed to commercial fishing and it doesn't change any of the laws governing nets or other commercial fishing gear.
Commissioners in favor of the move argued the agency spends hundreds of thousands of dollars policing the taking of paddlefish and that money could be spent on sport fishermen. In the past, several hundred thousand TWRA dollars also have been spent on studies of paddlefish.
The new regulations will go into effect in 30 days.
Commissioner Hugh Simonton of Henning, who voted against lifting the restrictions, volunteered to meet with commercial fishermen to try and work out an agreement that includes regulating the commercial taking of paddlefish.
TWRA Chief of Fisheries Bill Reeves disagreed with the commission's action but believes it could allow both sides a cooling-off period.
"This will put all sides in a position to be more considerate of the other side," Reeves said.
One downside for commercial fishermen could be an inability to export paddlefish roe. The U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service could intervene and stop exports because of the Convention on International Trade in Endangered Species known as CITIES.
"I don't think they are going to allow any exports," Reeves said. "Not without any season or any size limits."
Paddlefish roe is a popular form of caviar, especially in overseas markets. The roe commonly sells for upwards of $100 a pound and a mature paddlefish can have as much as 6 pounds of eggs.
"Let's quit trying to grow these things," Magli said. "Think of the money the agency will save. Think of the manpower the agency can save.
"We can divert that money and manpower to bigger and more sauger, bigger trout . . . We're going to get out of the business."




Boyce Magli of Franklin should be asked to step down immediately. He is irresponsible when it comes to protecting a resource which he is appointed to do!

Surrounding states are not very happy about this as it can and will affect them in the near future.

The TWRC has once again failed the sportsman of this state.
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#969543 - 10/14/08 03:55 PM Re: TWRC and TWRA possibly the worst [Re: AlabamaSwamper]
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Unbelievable, in my opinion.
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#969572 - 10/14/08 04:09 PM Re: TWRC and TWRA possibly the worst [Re: OldHunter]
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"We're getting out of the egg business," commissioner Boyce Magli of Franklin told the commercial fishermen at the meeting. "The discussion of paddlefish and our management of paddlefish takes up more time than any other two things we deal with.

I would like to know what 2 things he means. I just ain't getting this.

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#969620 - 10/14/08 04:47 PM Re: TWRC and TWRA possibly the worst [Re: AlabamaSwamper]
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Absolutely disgusting. Thank you for getting the word out on this.

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#970163 - 10/14/08 10:18 PM Re: TWRC and TWRA possibly the worst [Re: B.D.]
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That's pretty ridiculous.

If I wanted to stop expenditures on paddlefish, I would consider cutting funding or advise the wardens to "not spend more than 1% of their time on paddlefish policing".

By stripping the regulations out, even the honest commercial fishermen will begin overharvesting. Even if you left the rules in, at least SOME OF THEM would obey the rules.

That makes no sense.
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#970168 - 10/14/08 10:20 PM Re: TWRC and TWRA possibly the worst [Re: Crosshairy]
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#970248 - 10/15/08 05:03 AM Re: TWRC and TWRA possibly the worst [Re: smstone22]
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id like to hear what our state bioligists have to say about it,the commision is the same that closed lock 5 ? ,why not leave rules in place instead of dropping them ,somebody needs fired,mike243
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