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#922391 - 09/18/08 11:51 AM Re: The chute to below congo bottoms [Re: Tubakka]
Tubakka
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Trealtree, jacking around on no gen down at the dam two weeks ago, a buddy and I saw what I will say was probably the HEAVIEST [not the longest though...] brown I've EVER seen on the Caney. Easy 32-33" judging by the buffalo it was sharing the water with, but that kype...the thing look like an obese spawning kokanee...big old hump on his back. We got him to turn, but no take...there has to be a way. You're in the right spot...
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#922726 - 09/18/08 02:13 PM Re: The chute to below congo bottoms [Re: Tubakka]
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Tubster,

You talkin about right at the dam or 100 feet back? I think we might give that a shot this weekend.


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#924386 - 09/19/08 01:57 PM Re: The chute to below congo bottoms [Re: Tubakka]
stillinscrubs
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The hens are bigger Tubs. I caught all these males sitting next to a 35-36" hen in deep water waiting for her to move up to the gravel last year. I am guessing her length, but she was at least a foot longer than the males who were all between 18-23 inches. Also got 3-4 rainbows over 18 inches from behind her. She was sitting in about 5 feet of water waiting for generation to move up into a riffle and spawn.






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#925588 - 09/20/08 01:43 PM Re: The chute to below congo bottoms [Re: stillinscrubs]
Tubakka
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Scrubs, dude...

....next time I'm in town [hopefully right aroudn prespawn] let's hook up. I'm really not the jerk I'm perceived to be on this board...just ask BD. I fish with flyfishermen all the time, or have at least...I just don't like the attitude most of them have. I don't know if I'll ever adopt the tactic just for the intensive time nad money involved, but there's always something to be learned from another angler. I love wade fishing once those bigger browns start moving in. I have a few ideas how to get a big prespawn female.

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#925593 - 09/20/08 01:46 PM Re: The chute to below congo bottoms [Re: Tubakka]
Tubakka
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OKAY just noticed...the middle fish...look at the pectoral fin. About half the larger trout I caught last year had that distinct mark...as in it was a nub. Cook told me it was just from being crowded in the hatchery and it was a casualty of fighting over scraps, but I find it weird that it was almost always on the same side...maybe some form of genetic dillution because of using the same brood milt and roe? I dunno...but it seemed really really curious. Seen some deformities and general morphisms in that river that couldn't be attributed to environment alone. Wish I had pictures of the Were-brown...
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#925594 - 09/20/08 01:47 PM Re: The chute to below congo bottoms [Re: Tubakka]
Tubakka
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BTW, Scrubs, yes, I know the hens are bigger...but dang they ain't near as purty, paw.
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#925603 - 09/20/08 01:54 PM Re: The chute to below congo bottoms [Re: Tubakka]
Tubakka
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Adding to Scrubs analysis [which was rather good...in fact, great] this is one of the best big fish areas on the entire river. Shore got a 10 pound 26" brown back in April down Plank-O lane, the right lane down stream with all the trees. If you go down the middle, you should be fine, just focus on fishing...hit them hard and hit them fast then run it again. Be prepared to fish both the drop off into the deep hole at the Smith Fork confluence and the lay down on the right side...I've hooked 2 fish here that I know were trout that were over 10 pounds. Stale mates...plus a good shot at a striper and there are tons of 20" fish in there. The last time I was up, I had a 30" class fish come out from below Kirby, and I know of a gentleman that caught a 32" in the swift water going through the left lane past Ghetto Booty on a jerk bait...apparently while guiding Craig Morgan. Woof....Hope any of that helps. Talk to shore, I'm sure he knwos of some monsters being caught there.
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#925633 - 09/20/08 02:44 PM Re: The chute to below congo bottoms [Re: Tubakka]
stillinscrubs
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The fin is due to the hatchery race ways and handling trauma. It happens on both sides. If they get worn down too close to the origin of the fin they can't grow back. Lake superior state damages the fins on thier atlantic slamon to determine year class. This could have been done by the state intentionlly to collect data, but I doubt it.

The hens will get worn down fins while making reds, as the season progresses you will see the fins getting worse on them. They heal.

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#926718 - 09/21/08 01:24 PM Re: The chute to below congo bottoms [Re: stillinscrubs]
Tubakka
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That's what I thought at first...but after about catching half the fish over 20" having that SAME mark on the SAME side...its kinda bizarre, and the trauma appeared almost identical each time, no difference in the shape or length. I know the studies that they have been using on any trout in tailraces to determine year class has been to use the adipose fin, with the minimal amount of trauma to the fish or its perpetual wellbeing [ability to stabilize, swim, hunt etc] and a very very distinct differentiation between the control and experimental.
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#926720 - 09/21/08 01:25 PM Re: The chute to below congo bottoms [Re: Tubakka]
Tubakka
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Wait a sec, wait a sec...SCRUBS, did you put a SWIRL effect on the FLY in that top pic? Oh...my God....
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