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#911552 - 09/12/08 09:37 AM yet another whisker biscuit problem
broken tine
Spike


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HAs anyone ever heard of a w/b not tuning on certain bows? I shoot an older PSE and my pro-shop called me yesterday saying they couldn't get my biscuit to tune, so now I'm faced with buying a new rest!! Input please
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#911561 - 09/12/08 09:42 AM Re: yet another whisker biscuit problem [Re: broken tine]
RussellvilleRob
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I dont see him tuning it without you there anyway.

Am I right Radar?
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#911567 - 09/12/08 09:45 AM Re: yet another whisker biscuit problem [Re: RussellvilleRob]
broken tine
Spike


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he's just paper tuning it for me>
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#911602 - 09/12/08 10:07 AM Re: yet another whisker biscuit problem [Re: broken tine]
Jubal
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Did he try more than one rest? I guess it is possible that the riser is too thick to allow enough adjustment for the WB - since it is an older bow. A lot of the older bows were made thicker. Just a thought.

Not a big fan of allowing anyone to tune my bow. Or even shoot my bow for that matter. Paper tuning can easily be done at home and it helps you identify possible problems that you are causing.

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#911615 - 09/12/08 10:13 AM Re: yet another whisker biscuit problem [Re: broken tine]
Jubal
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Not a fan of the WB either - but I wouldn't call them "junk". It is a great rest for hunting.

BT-
If you are going to get another, I'd suggest that you get a good dropaway.


Edited by Jubal (09/12/08 10:14 AM)

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#911702 - 09/12/08 10:55 AM Re: yet another whisker biscuit problem [Re: broken tine]
f1maxis
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 Originally Posted By: broken tine
he's just paper tuning it for me>


He can't paper-tune if for you, that's something you have to do yourself. Each person applies torque to the bow in different ways, therefore you need to be the one shooting the bow when it's being tuned.
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#911718 - 09/12/08 11:04 AM Re: yet another whisker biscuit problem [Re: f1maxis]
highway
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never had trouble out of my whisker biscuit. I shoot dang good with mine. Preference of choice I guess.
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#911907 - 09/12/08 12:44 PM Re: yet another whisker biscuit problem [Re: highway]
Radar
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You will sometimes get false readings when paper tuning with a WB rest . I once was getting tail high paper tears indicating nock high , but I actually ended up below square with the string loop and the back end of the shaft was striking the bottom of the WB frame causing the arrow to rebound upwards .
There are many factors that affect bow tune besides the rest too . Arrow spine is critical , as well as the nock location , cam rotation on single cams , cam timing on dual cams , centershot , string stretch , etc.
The WB is one of the easiest rests to tune . I think the guy was trying to sell you a new rest . ;\)



Here is a copy and paste from the WB website :
Tips and Tricks
I keep getting a high tear when I paper tune my bow. How can I fix it?
If your bow is set up with even tiller, and the arrow rest is positioned so the arrow passes by the anchor bolt hole, and you are getting a high tear of 1/4 inch or less, then this is a satisfactory setup with the Whisker Biscuit and will result in good groups. There are however several things to check when you encounter a high paper tear. They are:

Biscuit gripping the arrow too tightly If the wrong size biscuit is being used for your arrow, or if the biscuit is not adjusted correctly and is fitting too tightly around the arrow shaft, a high paper tear is likely. To correct this problem verify you are using the correct size biscuit for your arrow. Then if necessary, adjust the biscuit by spreading it open at the split until the arrow passes freely through the biscuit. A loose fitting biscuit is optimal.

String Nock Point too Low The string nock point should be adjusted so that the arrow lays flat across the riser and passes in front of the anchor bolt hole. It is better to have a slightly high nock point (1/8 to 1/4 inch), than a slightly low nock point. A low nock point can produce a high paper tear.

Incorrect Spine 2 cam and 1 cam bows seem to differ as to how they respond to spine. Here is what you will typically see:
Two Cam Bow A high spine weight will cause a high tear. In general you won't see a low tear.
Single Cam Bow A high spine weight will cause a low tear. A low spine weight will cause a high tear.
Disclaimer There are many different cam designs, each with its own personality. If you find that the above observations don't pan out, try the opposite. If you are getting a vertical tear you can't get rid of by adjusting the rest or nocking point, it is a good bet that the arrow spine is the issue.

Biscuit too far to right or left Occasionally a vertical tear can be corrected by moving the biscuit to the right or left a slight amount. If you notice that your vertical tear leans to the side, try a slight horizontal adjustment.
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#911991 - 09/12/08 01:16 PM Re: yet another whisker biscuit problem [Re: Radar]
broken tine
Spike


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well he does a great job at tuning my girlfriend's bow, it too has a w/b and it's dead on
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#911997 - 09/12/08 01:19 PM Re: yet another whisker biscuit problem [Re: broken tine]
broken tine
Spike


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also thought about him just trying to sell me a new rest
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#912000 - 09/12/08 01:19 PM Re: yet another whisker biscuit problem [Re: broken tine]
LCU
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 Originally Posted By: broken tine
HAs anyone ever heard of a w/b not tuning on certain bows? I shoot an older PSE and my pro-shop called me yesterday saying they couldn't get my biscuit to tune, so now I'm faced with buying a new rest!! Input please


I use a QAD Pro on my bow. Never have any problems with it.
IMO, It's perfect.
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#912184 - 09/12/08 03:05 PM Re: yet another whisker biscuit problem [Re: LCU]
Buckblaster
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 Originally Posted By: LCU
 Originally Posted By: broken tine
HAs anyone ever heard of a w/b not tuning on certain bows? I shoot an older PSE and my pro-shop called me yesterday saying they couldn't get my biscuit to tune, so now I'm faced with buying a new rest!! Input please


I use a QAD Pro on my bow. Never have any problems with it.
IMO, It's perfect.


Mine woudlnt fall.

I say get a ripcord
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#912226 - 09/12/08 03:39 PM Re: yet another whisker biscuit problem [Re: f1maxis]
bobthebowhunter
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 Originally Posted By: f1maxis
 Originally Posted By: broken tine
he's just paper tuning it for me>


He can't paper-tune if for you, that's something you have to do yourself. Each person applies torque to the bow in different ways, therefore you need to be the one shooting the bow when it's being tuned.


ditto

It'd be like someone adjusting a bicycle for the way they ride and then giving to you to ride. It's gonna be different
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#912299 - 09/12/08 04:18 PM Re: yet another whisker biscuit problem [Re: bobthebowhunter]
Hillbilly Hunter
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I have shot a WB for at least 5 years and I have never had one single problem. Maybe I am lucky?????
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#912385 - 09/12/08 05:24 PM Re: yet another whisker biscuit problem [Re: Hillbilly Hunter]
Game Eye
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Like others have said, you need to be shooting the bow while tuning. I shoot the biscuit and love it.
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#913067 - 09/13/08 08:35 AM Re: yet another whisker biscuit problem [Re: Buckblaster]
Radar
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 Originally Posted By: Buckblaster
 Originally Posted By: LCU
 Originally Posted By: broken tine
HAs anyone ever heard of a w/b not tuning on certain bows? I shoot an older PSE and my pro-shop called me yesterday saying they couldn't get my biscuit to tune, so now I'm faced with buying a new rest!! Input please


I use a QAD Pro on my bow. Never have any problems with it.
IMO, It's perfect.


Mine woudlnt fall.

I say get a ripcord


My QAD Ultra Hunter rest wouldn't fall either . When I shot , the fletching tore off the launcher, bouncng it off the back of the riser and near my eye . I sent it back to Cabelas for a refund . I would not recommend that rest to anyone .
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#913379 - 09/13/08 02:14 PM Re: yet another whisker biscuit problem [Re: Radar]
Food Plot 101
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I haven't had any problems with the WB.
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#913422 - 09/13/08 03:28 PM Re: yet another whisker biscuit problem [Re: Food Plot 101]
FLTENNHUNTER1
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WB's rule.
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#913588 - 09/13/08 06:24 PM Re: yet another whisker biscuit problem [Re: FLTENNHUNTER1]
squattin dogg
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As an Archery / bow ed instructior you sould be there with your bow during everything . It is your bow to be intimate " with it and know it's in and out's . I have just switched to the WB this year and have had no complaints. Take it under your own control and test it in feild to be proven wrong. !!!! GOOD LUCK !!!!
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#914241 - 09/14/08 08:45 AM Re: yet another whisker biscuit problem [Re: Hillbilly Hunter]
ChadG
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 Originally Posted By: Hillbilly Hunter
I have shot a WB for at least 5 years and I have never had one single problem. Maybe I am lucky?????


I guess I'm lucky too!
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#915438 - 09/15/08 05:08 AM Re: yet another whisker biscuit problem [Re: broken tine]
Layne
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I've shot a WB for several years with no problem but it did bother me having the fletching going through the whiskers. I'm now shooting a Ripcord and I love it.
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#917671 - 09/16/08 12:22 AM Re: yet another whisker biscuit problem [Re: Layne]
Timber Ghost
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I have tried many diff. rests over the yrs. I will probably never use anything but the WB from now on. It has been great for me.
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#917935 - 09/16/08 08:43 AM Re: yet another whisker biscuit problem [Re: Timber Ghost]
Radar
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I have tried several drop aways , and had a Trophy Taker on my PSE . I took it off because it was making a metallic click when I let down , even after I tried to silence it with moleskin , and foam rubber .
I put a WB on it and shoot just as good , without the noise .
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#923763 - 09/19/08 07:17 AM Re: yet another whisker biscuit problem [Re: ]
showmehorns
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 Originally Posted By: Seminole39
yet another reason why biscuits are junk


Sure they are. ;\)
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