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#901980 - 09/06/08 02:46 PM Bow Driving me Crazy
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Well I never in 100 years would have thought it would have been this hard to get a bow set up right. I got this PSE Dream Season X-Force in and so far this is what I've learned:

Only PSE "Pro Dealers" carry the X-Force line. None are within 50 miles of here. All other archery shops in a 50 mile radius to me cannot work on the X-Force because of the limb design they require a specific bow press type. If you put them in a different design bow press you will split the limbs.

So that said, I called some on the PSE website for their dealers and got ahold of one. Drove up there this morning and they were really nice people. I'm not bad mouthing anybody at all. They were busy though as any pro shop will be this time of year. I over looked that. They tried to get me set up but we ran into some snags and for whatever reason I am a 28" draw on every other bow but I came out with a 27" module on my bow there to get me "right". But here's what else I learned after getting home:

Last years X-Force and this years X-Force Dream Season are two different animals as far as cam adjustments go.

You go by the last digit of the module. Say it says 1008. Then the 8 stands for 28" of draw and you would put the draw stop in the #8 hole to make it 28". You can put the draw stop in other places and it will cause you to either over extend the cam cycle or get it to where it stops before the cam actually breaks over which will about jerk it out of your hand. SO if it ain't where it is suppose to be, the cam is out of whack.

That's how it was with the 2007 X-Force. The 2008 X-Force "Dream Season" is different...so I find out now. You still go by the last digit on the module BUT you now have to go a size down from last year.

So say you have that same 1008 module and the draw stop in the #8 hole. On the 2008 Dream Season X-Force, that is actually 29" draw length while on the other X-Forces, that is 28". Confused yet?

Well back to my story. So far I've took it to two places. One shop wouldn't touch it because of the wrong bow press thing...that was a 30 mile one way trip for nothing..thus I learned to call before travel. Took it today to another shop that was a PSE Pro Shop and evidently they haven't fiddled much with the Dream Season models. Which that ain't no bad on them but experience is a good teacher. They set it up like the other X-Forces...and thus for me it was too long with the #8 module for 28" (which is actually 29 on the DS bow so it should be too long). So they dropped it down to the #7 module...which would be 28" on the DS BUT for whatever reason they never moved the draw stop to compensate for that. Not sure why...might have just slipped their mind from being so hectic in there. So the bow was a little shorter than before but not short enough. So we went to a #6 module...and same thing, did not move the draw stop and got me "close". That's where I stand now.

I didn't find all this out til I got all the way back home. The bow would have been fine with the #7 module if the draw stop had been put in the #7 slot. And now I gotta track down a #7 module and X-Force compatible bow press to put the string back to spec before of the fandangling we had to do to get my draw length close.

Why couldn't things just be simple LOL. Grants in Dalton is the only other Pro Series dealer close to me and I just called them. They confirmed my internet findings on the draw stop and modules. Said they would be happy to fix it. But they close at 4 on Saturday and it was 3:30 when I called and that's an hour away from me. I might can make it down there this week and hopefully be able to shoot this bow good.

But here's to ya PSE...the X-Force which is actually on 27" draw with a half inch d-loop and an out of whack cam still shot a 386 grain arrow at 298 FPS and 65 pounds. When she finally gets dialed in she should really be smoking. But this is a lot of trouble and waiting for one bow. No wonder I've always stuck with local dealers and what they carried.

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#901995 - 09/06/08 03:16 PM Re: Bow Driving me Crazy [Re: Crow Terminator]
onebuck
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Hope you get it right soon, dude!
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#902027 - 09/06/08 04:36 PM Re: Bow Driving me Crazy [Re: onebuck]
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#902301 - 09/06/08 08:19 PM Re: Bow Driving me Crazy [Re: ]
Dalton
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I don't know if you have ever been to Grant's, but they are good people.
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#902400 - 09/06/08 09:10 PM Re: Bow Driving me Crazy [Re: Dalton]
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According to my user manual , I can back out the limb bolts on my Mach X enough to relax the string . I have the independent split limb pockets though ,and for Hyper Split pockets you need to use a compression force press or pull type press .
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#902426 - 09/06/08 09:26 PM Re: Bow Driving me Crazy [Re: Radar]
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#902522 - 09/06/08 10:42 PM Re: Bow Driving me Crazy [Re: bowkill1]
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wow thats confusing.
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#904842 - 09/08/08 03:13 PM Re: Bow Driving me Crazy [Re: bowkill1]
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Radar -- Yep that's what they've told me about the presses. Bow shops around here are few and far between anyway; finding one with that style press AND being a PSE dealer is evidently a hard task.

I scheduled a vacation day for tomorrow to go to Grants. I've never been down there but the guy I talked to in archery dept on the phone sounded knowledgeable and nice. Hopefully I'll get this bad boy up and going.

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#904977 - 09/08/08 04:50 PM Re: Bow Driving me Crazy [Re: Crow Terminator]
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I only go to one shop for anything bow related.
Lawsons in Loretto.
Ask for Wade.

I shoot a Mathews and they are a dealer, but they also sell and service other brands of bows.

Have a dealer and shop much closer to my home,but I drive right past them. Going to Lawsons is well worth the time and fuel.
They do good work,at competitive prices,without the bow shop attitude.
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#906013 - 09/09/08 08:14 AM Re: Bow Driving me Crazy [Re: LCU]
Jubal
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I only go to one shop as well.... it is out out in my garage. I don't trust any of the bow "technicians" around. Most of them, around here anyway, have the "I'm better than you" attitude and frankly, are not worth dealing with.

If you learn how to work on your own bow you won't have to depend on any technician that may, or may not, know what he is doing.

No matter what bow you have, none of it is rocket science. Buy a $30 Bowmaster press (which will press any bow) and spend a little time on the internet forums and I am sure, if you have even a little sense, you can fix just about any problem.

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