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#892791 - 08/31/08 08:59 PM Sticks verses steps
wiskerbiscuit
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which is more economical and practical climbing sticks or screw in steps?
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#892954 - 08/31/08 10:12 PM Re: Sticks verses steps [Re: wiskerbiscuit]
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climbing sticks seem less dangerous to me
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#892998 - 08/31/08 10:30 PM Re: Sticks verses steps [Re: big 8's in Weakley county]
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Neither one just really excites me.
If I have to use one or the other it would be sticks.
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#893425 - 09/01/08 12:49 PM Re: Sticks verses steps [Re: RUGER]
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I primarily hunt from lock-on type stands and have used both the sticks and screw-in steps. If you have a moderately straight tree the steps go together easy and are less labor-intensive to use and probably safer. However, they are heavy, bulky, and sometimes a pain to carry long distances especially if you have to go through some thick stuff. Steps are great for mobility and allow you to get in some trees that the sticks won't - but in my opinion they are more dangerous as you try to hang on with one hand and screw in the steps with the other.
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#894154 - 09/01/08 08:39 PM Re: Sticks verses steps [Re: bow_vol]
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and screw in steps are illegal on WMA's.
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#895359 - 09/02/08 03:32 PM Re: Sticks verses steps [Re: InfoMan]
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 Originally Posted By: InfoMan
and screw in steps are illegal on WMA's.


Did not know that I always take climber to WMA's anyway
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#897907 - 09/03/08 11:53 PM Re: Sticks verses steps [Re: wiskerbiscuit]
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Gonna stick with the Sticks! Screw in steps seem dangerous to me as well. Won't use them!
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#899273 - 09/04/08 08:34 PM Re: Sticks verses steps [Re: Big J]
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and can kill trees
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#899324 - 09/04/08 08:51 PM Re: Sticks verses steps [Re: Team Browning]
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Sticks all the way.
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#899920 - 09/05/08 07:00 AM Re: Sticks verses steps [Re: MFBAB]
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I've had screw-in steps failbefore; fortunately they were the ones near the bottom of the tree so I didn't get hurt.

I like stick ladders, though I prefer the styly that are 3' independant ones; they can be moved slightly to work on crooked trunks or to get around branches. Slightly easier and lighter to carry, especially the aluminum ones.
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#901242 - 09/05/08 08:59 PM Re: Sticks verses steps [Re: wiskerbiscuit]
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I USE STICKS UNTIL I'M SURE THE SPOTS WORTH THE TROUBLE AND LABOR OF SCREWING IN THE STEPS. STEPS ARE GREAT IF YOU SPACE THEM PROPERLY AND GENERALLY QUIETER. MY STICKS TEND TO MAKE A LITTLE NOISE IN COLD WEATHER. AS MENTIONED EARLIER, TREE NEEDS TO BE STRAIGHT FOR STICKS.
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#901301 - 09/05/08 09:24 PM Re: Sticks verses steps [Re: bowfire]
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Personally I don't see that screw-ins are permanently damaging to trees. I've never seen a tree killed by screw-in steps, and in the past I've hunted the same tree for years. I do understand why some properties and areas don't allow them though - I'd hate to see what one would do to a saw blade !!!
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#918304 - 09/16/08 12:47 PM Re: Sticks verses steps [Re: bow_vol]
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Treehopper system for me!
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#976709 - 10/18/08 09:20 PM Re: Sticks verses steps [Re: jakeway]
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have used both types. the sticks are fine. but they can get slick during wet and cold weather. have used screw in steps for nearly 20 yrs. only had one too break and there was a recall on that batch that i wasn't aware of. primarily use the ameristep step up. good tracktion all weather. never had a problem one.
personally, i vote screw in steps.
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#978110 - 10/19/08 10:23 PM Re: Sticks verses steps [Re: archer19]
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Hang ons and steps are too scary for me. I go with my climber or a ladder. They are good for areas without straight trees though. I have a couple places that they would be good for, but just too scary for me.

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#986766 - 10/23/08 09:58 PM Re: Sticks verses steps [Re: BoonerBucks]
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Just put up a stand today using the Gorilla climbing sticks -- four independent sections that don't connect to each other. They are rock-solid compared to the ladder type, plus you can go higher with them because you can space them apart.

They will be my climbing system of choice from now on.

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#1067407 - 12/04/08 05:19 PM Re: Sticks verses steps [Re: jakeway]
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STICKS ARE MOST DEFINITELY SAFER AND OVER ALL MUCH BETTER
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#1070174 - 12/06/08 04:33 PM Re: Sticks verses steps [Re: bow_vol]
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 Originally Posted By: bow_vol
Personally I don't see that screw-ins are permanently damaging to trees. I've never seen a tree killed by screw-in steps, and in the past I've hunted the same tree for years. I do understand why some properties and areas don't allow them though - I'd hate to see what one would do to a saw blade !!!


They may not kill the tree, but they will do very serious damage to the log. There will be a blemish in the wood at every step. This damage is enough to turn a high dollar veneer log into a less valuable rough lumber log.
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#1070179 - 12/06/08 04:48 PM Re: Sticks verses steps [Re: Southpaw]
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One other problem with the screw in steps. When they are removed they leave a wound in the tree that lets insects and decay start killing the tree. It won't happen over night but sooner or later it will die.
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#1070811 - 12/07/08 09:52 AM Re: Sticks verses steps [Re: WestTn Huntin'man]
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I like my Lone Wolf sticks much more than the screw in steps I used for years . Gorilla makes some good climbing sticks , but they are a little heavier than the Lone Wolf sticks .
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#1072610 - 12/08/08 02:44 PM Re: Sticks verses steps [Re: ]
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Depends on the type hunting you are doing and how far/rough it is getting to the stand location!
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#1092976 - 12/19/08 04:02 PM Re: Sticks verses steps [Re: Winchester]
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Screw in steps will gut you like a fish if you slip and fall on one. Heard too many stories of them failing in the hunters Ed safety reports. Got rid of mine.

Go with stick ladders. A little more work, a little noisier, but it is much better than lying on the ground with 10' of intestines strung up over your screw in step.

Be sure to use a fall restraint system every time!
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#1122722 - 01/10/09 10:17 AM Re: Sticks verses steps [Re: fishboy1]
jakeway
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 Originally Posted By: fishboy1
...Go with stick ladders. A little more work...

Be sure to use a fall restraint system every time!


I disagree on the work. Stick ladders are much less work and time than screwwng in all those steps. Especially on hard wood trees like oaks.
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