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#889359 - 08/29/08 10:49 AM McCain just earned my vote (fishing related)
stillinscrubs
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http://www.alaskaseafood.org/industry/enews/092607govpalinfish.jpg

The vice presidential candidate.....


Edited by stillinscrubs (08/29/08 10:55 AM)

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#889752 - 08/29/08 03:09 PM Re: McCain just earned my vote (fishing related) [Re: stillinscrubs]
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She could be a little less wishy-washy on the Pebble Mine, don't you think?

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#890133 - 08/29/08 07:48 PM Re: McCain just earned my vote (fishing related) [Re: B.D.]
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I would love for the world to fall into we can have our cake and eat it too, but alas it is not reality.

She is from a family of commercial fishers, in Alaska that is a well regulated industry and sustainable. I am sure some fishing groups will complain. As long as the management is sustainable it sounds good to me. Mining, fishing, and other activities of man can be done in a less impactfull manner.

As for the pebble mine, while I am against the idea of the mine, I have a hard time telling someone they can't have a job because of my selfish wishes (fishing)......it's a theme you may have noticed out of me....

If it goes through I hope it is well controlled, but I drive a car that needs oil, the wiring is copper, and some components are made of gold.....

Tell your wife, if you are married, no more gold and then get back to me on how well that works out.

The woman is a life long NRA memeber and comes from a family that uses natural resources for food and recreation. She and I have more in common than the lawyers from Delaware or Illinois.

I think I also read Obama has not come out against the mine.....but that information could be incorrect.

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#890223 - 08/29/08 08:41 PM Re: McCain just earned my vote (fishing related) [Re: stillinscrubs]
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#890668 - 08/30/08 08:39 AM Re: McCain just earned my vote (fishing related) [Re: stillinscrubs]
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#891612 - 08/30/08 11:31 PM Re: McCain just earned my vote (fishing related) [Re: Panther78]
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I am glad he will get your vote but sad it's cause of a pic of a woman with a fish.
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#892158 - 08/31/08 11:34 AM Re: McCain just earned my vote (fishing related) [Re: Panther78]
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#892403 - 08/31/08 04:25 PM Re: McCain just earned my vote (fishing related) [Re: bigluresonly]
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 Originally Posted By: bigluresonly
I am glad he will get your vote but sad it's cause of a pic of a woman with a fish.


Actually it is because of how she handled the perinatal information related to her fifth child that had the most impact with me, then the anti corruption stance, pro-business, gun rights, hunting and fishing background, I just happen to think she is better looking than ALL of you holding a fish....

I have a hard time with aborting kids even if they may turn out like Tubs or BW, a child is a responsibility not a choice, IMO.

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#893032 - 08/31/08 11:07 PM Re: McCain just earned my vote (fishing related) [Re: stillinscrubs]
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Well, if you want to vote for her based on her pro-business or anti-abortion stances, that's fine, though that would be a better discussion for the politics forum.

As far as I'm concerned, she's awfully cozy with the mining interests that are the biggest polluters in Alaska - she hasn't been in office long enough to have much of a record on conservation, but what little there is looks sorry enough to make Gov. Murkowski look good by comparison.

A handful of pictures with salmon and AR-15s doesn't undo her record.

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#895876 - 09/02/08 08:36 PM Re: McCain just earned my vote (fishing related) [Re: B.D.]
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You can walk to work if you want to. I don't. Lake Erie was basically dead when I was in grammer school. It's as alive as it can be now. If you plan your life around the environment to far one way or the other, you may as well be dead. Mother nature has a way of healing itself in spite of mankind.

Vote for a loudmouthed attorney type that has his fingers where they don't belong VP candidate or a mother of five that may be learning the political ropes that enjoys her free time in a similar way that we on this board do. Choose carefully.

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#895937 - 09/02/08 09:01 PM Re: McCain just earned my vote (fishing related) [Re: Hangnail]
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 Originally Posted By: Hangnail
You can walk to work if you want to. I don't. Lake Erie was basically dead when I was in grammer school. It's as alive as it can be now.



That's true, but it didn't get that way by accident. Lake Erie is cleaner now because we got smart and started regulating the polluters who dumped in it. I'm wary of people who favor going back to the days when the polluters had free rein. Have you ever seen a river that has been poisoned by mine tailings? It's an ugly sight.

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#896058 - 09/02/08 10:12 PM Re: McCain just earned my vote (fishing related) [Re: B.D.]
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You're missing my point. We can "protect" the environment to the point that we can't do anything. I'm not willing to do that. If the people of Alaska think they have a way of making their lives better by mining, mine away. I don't think it's right for zealots from all over the nation to try and dictate what the Alaskans want to do for their needs. Democrats keep yaking about the need for renewable resources. Fine. Take half the handouts they've been championing for fifty years and develop something other than breastfed adult Americans.
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#897078 - 09/03/08 04:09 PM Re: McCain just earned my vote (fishing related) [Re: Hangnail]
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How come her face ain't all swirly? Hero shot.
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#901817 - 09/06/08 11:56 AM Re: McCain just earned my vote (fishing related) [Re: Hangnail]
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 Originally Posted By: Hangnail
You're missing my point. We can "protect" the environment to the point that we can't do anything.


You can go overboard with environmentalism, to the point where you're really just anti-technology. You can also go overboard with anti-environmentalism, to the point where you allow polluters to do whatever they want with no regulation. Neither extreme serves our interests.

Pebble Mine isn't an "overboard" issue though.

The problem with Pebble Mine is that it would be the largest open-pit mine in North America, right at the top of the Bristol Bay drainage. It will generate 2.5 billion tons of acidic waste material that will contaminate the biggest sockeye salmon fishery in the world.

Sportfishing groups and commercial fishing groups alike oppose the mine. It's not even a close call. Opponents include the Sportsman's Alliance for Alaska, Alaska Wilderness Recreation and Tourism Association, Alaska Independent Fishermen's Marketing Association, Federation of Fly Fishers, Trout Unlimited, American Rivers, etc.

Governor Palin has said in some places that she has no position on the mine, and then in other places she has suggested that she supports the mine.

Regardless of her stance on other issues, she ought to be ashamed for allowing this project to go forward. She's not supporting sport fishermen or conservationists.

If you want to read more:

http://www.stoppebblemine.com/

http://www.flyfisherman.com/alaska/jrpebble/

http://www.sportsmansalliance4ak.org/assets/Latest_News/TU-AFFTA_ad_press_release_FINAL.pdf

bd


Edited by Brian Dunigan (09/06/08 11:57 AM)

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