#879581 - 08/21/08 12:37 PM
Re: For the guides
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Fordman
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Wow Biglures...haha...congrats. Way to flush them out...I didn't know some of these folks were "Guides"...that explains alot...
What was it a game? I have never hidden my guide business and I dont think anyone posted on thread that I didnt already know about.
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#879584 - 08/21/08 12:39 PM
Re: For the guides
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Fordman
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I am not getting into a pissin contest over pictures, I just dont feel any need to post a picture on the web to prove I am any good.
Besides once a picture is "posted" its also "published" there fore I would rather save them for a "publisher" who may want to buy them.
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#879704 - 08/21/08 02:03 PM
Re: For the guides
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bowriter
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Rule of thumb for some of...don't post the ones that will make you money.
Pat from Bowsite just won a deal against Youtube and I made them back down on a deal a few weeks ago. It may be getting better but once that sucker becomes public, to the way of thinking of some, it is public property.
You've learned well, Troy.
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#879745 - 08/21/08 02:27 PM
Re: For the guides
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bowriter
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You know, funny thing about this guide business. It's a lot of work and the pay is usually less than minimum wage. But a few weeks ago I got an email from a gentleman that visits this site now and then thanking me for guiding his dad 20 years ago. He explained how that one trip eventually affected his whole family on down to his kids. Those things kind of make up for it.
When I started guiding in 1968, I started with just antelope, mule deer and elk. I truly did not have a bad trip. When I came to TN, I took out a few fishermen but since I was still learning the waters, I didn't push it much. Then in 1981, when the whitetail boom hit, I leased 7,500 acres and started guiding deer hunters-mostly bowhunters. That is when I started having a few idiots in camp. At the same time, I was guiding for smallmouth on Priest, C.Hill and the Holler.
Then I branched out to the new opportunities in the Midwest and worked some summers in Canada and a few weeks in the mountains. All together I have no idea how many clients I have had in the boat or in camp. My guess would be a lot. I know we paid almost $70,000 in leases one year and still made money.
But during that entire time I was writing for money. Guiding wasn't my sole income. It makes me kind of sad to learn that me and RSimms aren't really guides. 
But then, after some carefull consideration, I wonder what the he11 that has to do with anything? What I really want to know is what they did with the water on the river Tuesday morning? What a mess.
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#879758 - 08/21/08 02:42 PM
Re: For the guides
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captain hook
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You know, funny thing about this guide business. It's a lot of work and the pay is usually less than minimum wage.
I don't know about your side of guiding but mine certainly pays more then minimum wage. It used to be that during peak season I could make 45,000+, not getting rich but certainly paying the bills and definitely making more then min. wage. I retired mostly because of the need for health insurance, and to pursue a professional career. I still guide quite a bit but nothing like when I was full time and it was my profession.
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#879768 - 08/21/08 02:49 PM
Re: For the guides
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bigluresonly
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Wow Biglures...haha...congrats. Way to flush them out...I didn't know some of these folks were "Guides"...that explains alot...
What was it a game? I have never hidden my guide business and I dont think anyone posted on thread that I didnt already know about.
Not at all Troy. I know a bunch of vetran guides are on this board and was looking for a laugh about trips gone wrong, that's all.
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#879806 - 08/21/08 03:22 PM
Re: For the guides
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bowriter
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You know, funny thing about this guide business. It's a lot of work and the pay is usually less than minimum wage.
I don't know about your side of guiding but mine certainly pays more then minimum wage. It used to be that during peak season I could make 45,000+, not getting rich but certainly paying the bills and definitely making more then min. wage. I retired mostly because of the need for health insurance, and to pursue a professional career. I still guide quite a bit but nothing like when I was full time and it was my profession.
I made a he11 of a lot more than that but when you divide it by the hours you get a different picture. Then take out the expenses and you get real good picture. It sounds really neat to say you took in over a quarter million this year until you take out the $200,000 in actual costs. I can bank $25k sitting on my butt writing stories.
It's all relative.
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#879822 - 08/21/08 03:31 PM
Re: For the guides
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captain hook
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You know, funny thing about this guide business. It's a lot of work and the pay is usually less than minimum wage.
I don't know about your side of guiding but mine certainly pays more then minimum wage. It used to be that during peak season I could make 45,000+, not getting rich but certainly paying the bills and definitely making more then min. wage. I retired mostly because of the need for health insurance, and to pursue a professional career. I still guide quite a bit but nothing like when I was full time and it was my profession. I made a he11 of a lot more than that but when you divide it by the hours you get a different picture. Then take out the expenses and you get real good picture. It sounds really neat to say you took in over a quarter million this year until you take out the $200,000 in actual costs. I can bank $25k sitting on my butt writing stories. It's all relative.
I was talking about what I cleared just for clarification. The gross is not important. Of course I was straight out of school and it was a heck of alot more then I could make doing anything else within reason.
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#879870 - 08/21/08 03:55 PM
Re: For the guides
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bowriter
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Okay. You win.
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