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#865317 - 08/12/08 03:38 PM Re: Fifty yard shots.Who's tried it? [Re: RUGER]
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I have a 35,45, and 55 yard pin. I practice at all ranges and can hit the vtals in all three distances. I have only taken on shot over 50 yards. It was 54 yards. The deer was in a field and I was on the edge of the field. He ate good.
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#865376 - 08/12/08 04:58 PM Re: Fifty yard shots.Who's tried it? [Re: Hillbilly Hunter]
BowGuy84
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Farthest kills were 41 and 43...Id take a 50 in a heartbeat. As many have said, it isnt for everyone but I shoot all year and have a 55 yd pin. I know how to hold it out to 60 and can keep a 3 arrow group inside a 4 in circle with almost no exception. I also have noticed deer dont "string jump" near as much further off.

All this being said, my average shot distance on all bow kills is...22 yards.

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#865388 - 08/12/08 05:04 PM Re: Fifty yard shots.Who's tried it? [Re: BowGuy84]
JDBinTN
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Practice that far but limit hunting shots to 40yds.
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#865705 - 08/12/08 08:00 PM Re: Fifty yard shots.Who's tried it? [Re: pubhunter17]
FallRutSpringStrut
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This is a great debate and everyone has great opinions on long shots. I can see everyones agreements and disagreements. It just depends on the person. I have a friend that lives in California and this guy is a die hard bow hunter. He has taken numberous mulies, black tails and bears out on the west coast. An alot of his shots are over 50 yards because they use mostly spot and stalk. Well in the last 25 plus years of bow hunting he has never taken a whitetail. Last year he was in town on business and he had his first chance to bow hunt whitetails from a treestand. On the second day he was lucky enough to connect on a mature doe. After the hunt he admitted that our hunting around here is very difficult and the deer are very weary. So alot of it depends on the game you are hunting.
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#865951 - 08/12/08 11:47 PM Re: Fifty yard shots.Who's tried it? [Re: buzzr46]
Rickym
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 Originally Posted By: buzzr46
even though I may be able to hit a target at 50+ yards, to shoot at a deer at that range I would have to wonder about how much kinetic energy is making it that far.


plenty enough to pass right thru with a good setup.

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#865986 - 08/13/08 04:51 AM Re: Fifty yard shots.Who's tried it? [Re: Rickym]
f1maxis
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 Originally Posted By: buzzr46
even though I may be able to hit a target at 50+ yards, to shoot at a deer at that range I would have to wonder about how much kinetic energy is making it that far.


A bow shooting 260 fps with a 400 grain arrow generates 60 ft-lbs of KE and 0.461 lbs-sec of momentum at the bow. At 50 yards, that same arrow still generates 54 ft. lbs of KE and 0.437 lbs-sec of momentum.

Like was stated above, plenty enough for a clean pass-through.
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#866012 - 08/13/08 05:44 AM Re: Fifty yard shots.Who's tried it? [Re: f1maxis]
buzzr46
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 Originally Posted By: f1maxis
 Originally Posted By: buzzr46
even though I may be able to hit a target at 50+ yards, to shoot at a deer at that range I would have to wonder about how much kinetic energy is making it that far.


A bow shooting 260 fps with a 400 grain arrow generates 60 ft-lbs of KE and 0.461 lbs-sec of momentum at the bow. At 50 yards, that same arrow still generates 54 ft. lbs of KE and 0.437 lbs-sec of momentum.

Like was stated above, plenty enough for a clean pass-through.


cool, what's the formula for figgerin' all that out. That's neat to know
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#866030 - 08/13/08 06:15 AM Re: Fifty yard shots.Who's tried it? [Re: buzzr46]
f1maxis
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 Originally Posted By: buzzr46
 Originally Posted By: f1maxis
 Originally Posted By: buzzr46
even though I may be able to hit a target at 50+ yards, to shoot at a deer at that range I would have to wonder about how much kinetic energy is making it that far.


A bow shooting 260 fps with a 400 grain arrow generates 60 ft-lbs of KE and 0.461 lbs-sec of momentum at the bow. At 50 yards, that same arrow still generates 54 ft. lbs of KE and 0.437 lbs-sec of momentum.

Like was stated above, plenty enough for a clean pass-through.


cool, what's the formula for figgerin' all that out. That's neat to know



KE formula:

(Arrow Weight * Velocity * Velocity) / 450,240


Momentum formula:

(Arrow Weight / 7000) / 32) * Velocity
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#866052 - 08/13/08 06:30 AM Re: Fifty yard shots.Who's tried it? [Re: f1maxis]
f1maxis
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One other note, according to Easton, here are the guidelines for the required KE you'll need to hunt different species:

< 25 ft. lbs. - Small Game (rabbit, groundhog, etc.)
25-41 ft. lbs. - Medium Game (deer, antelope, etc.)
42-65 ft. lbs. - Large Game (elk, black bear, wild boar, etc.)
> 65 ft. lbs. - Toughest Game (Cape Buffalo, Grizzly, etc.)


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#868891 - 08/14/08 03:30 PM Re: Fifty yard shots.Who's tried it? [Re: FallRutSpringStrut]
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For todays higher end bows, 50 yards is nothing in the hands of an accomplished shooter who knows his equipment.I group the same at 60 yards as I do at 20 yards.
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