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#868910 - 08/14/08 03:53 PM Re: Fifty yard shots.Who's tried it? [Re: W.Seay]
BowGuy84
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Here are the only 4 arrows I shot tonight. All were shot at 55 yds. Not saying I am Robin Hood, or Chance B. or anything...just what a hunting set up can do with a little practice.

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#873945 - 08/18/08 02:42 PM Re: Fifty yard shots.Who's tried it? [Re: BowGuy84]
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If you hunt out west much, you almost have to learn to make 50-yard shots. The western hunters are use to it. In the wide open, brush in between doesn't even figure in.It really all comes down to quickly reading the conditions, wind, uphill, downhill etc and then practicing enough that a 50-yard shot is no more difficult than a 30-yard shot. One of keys is to practice on 3-D targets, not dots.

Do I espouse taking 50-yard shot? Absolutley not. I have taken a few, made a few. But I have hunted with some guys who thought nothing of it and never made a bad shot. Chuck Adams was one of them. Byron Ferguson another.

It's all relative and ethics only comes into play if you take one and have to hope and pray it hits. If you make those shots on live game all the time, dam betcha it is ethical. But for the average, eastern hunter, it sure isn't reccommended.
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#874137 - 08/18/08 04:47 PM Re: Fifty yard shots.Who's tried it? [Re: bowriter]
stik
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a deer can move a long ways before an arrow covers 50 yds. i would never shoot at a live target over 30-35 yds.
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#876785 - 08/20/08 04:04 AM Re: Fifty yard shots.Who's tried it? [Re: Southpaw]
XForceman
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Spoken like a true HUNTER Radar!!! Well Said.
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#877452 - 08/20/08 10:48 AM Re: Fifty yard shots.Who's tried it? [Re: megalomaniac]
CZ284
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 Originally Posted By: megalomaniac
Drilled my elk at 50 yards last year... but that's a completely different animal from a whitetail...

first of all, their vitals are the size of a beachball. Second, they won't duck the string like a whitetail.

My longest shot on a whitetail is 35 yards, and that's about my personal max. I wouldn't hesitate to pull the release on an elk at 55, though.


Very good point mega. I killed an elk at 50 yards as well, standing broadside in an open field. They are definitely not as spooky or quick as a whitetail.

Not only is there the increased possibility of hitting something small in the way, 50 yards in the woods is a LONG way. Wind drift, etc. taken into account in my book makes a shot that long at a wihtetail a questionable thing.

Personally, in over 25 years of bowhunting, I've never shot at a whitetail over 25 yards. Knock on wood, I've only wounded one and it was a very superficial cut on the brisket. I like to get in close- in my book that's the biggest challenge to bowhunting, gettin in close so you have a greater chance of a short, accurate shot. Long range shooting is best left for field archery. JMO.

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#879136 - 08/21/08 08:16 AM Re: Fifty yard shots.Who's tried it? [Re: Southpaw]
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I shot a buck at 64 yards from our 40' tree hut. He dropped right where he was standing. Not a good practice but I had practice the shot from the stand. Never would shoot from a distance that I had not practiced from.
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#879528 - 08/21/08 12:03 PM Re: Fifty yard shots.Who's tried it? [Re: easy45]
Blue5
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IMO todays bows are very capable of 50 yd kills! With practice!
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#879588 - 08/21/08 12:42 PM Re: Fifty yard shots.Who's tried it? [Re: pubhunter17]
WestTn Huntin'man
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 Originally Posted By: pubhunter17
Sorry on the Bushman show and watched Lee kill two deer at fifty yards plus.I thought that was pretty cool and sorta stupid.I don't feel like that is an ethical shot but he stated if your going to do it for a living you have to take the shot when you can.I going to pratice at 50 yrds but I don't think I'll shoot an animal at that distance.

Thats the problem with many businesses today No ecthic's.I wonder how many guys that would not take that 50 yard plus shot saw it and say if he can do it so can I.???They never show the gut shot unrecovered deer. They only show the perfect shot and perfect recovery's. I used to watch all the hunting shows. Don't watch any of them anymore. I prefer the one man uneditted show when I hit the woods.Some days are perfect,some not so perfect. They're all good if I'm in the woods.
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#879607 - 08/21/08 12:51 PM Re: Fifty yard shots.Who's tried it? [Re: WestTn Huntin'man]
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 Originally Posted By: WestTn Huntin'man
 Originally Posted By: pubhunter17
Sorry on the Bushman show and watched Lee kill two deer at fifty yards plus.I thought that was pretty cool and sorta stupid.I don't feel like that is an ethical shot but he stated if your going to do it for a living you have to take the shot when you can.I going to pratice at 50 yrds but I don't think I'll shoot an animal at that distance.

Thats the problem with many businesses today No ecthic's.I wonder how many guys that would not take that 50 yard plus shot saw it and say if he can do it so can I.???They never show the gut shot unrecovered deer. They only show the perfect shot and perfect recovery's. I used to watch all the hunting shows. Don't watch any of them anymore. I prefer the one man uneditted show when I hit the woods.Some days are perfect,some not so perfect. They're all good if I'm in the woods.



Just like on a hunting forum , No one will talk about the shots they missed or wounded , just brag about the good shots they made . It's human nature I guess .
I have nothing against an accomplished archer and bowhunter taking a shot within their effective range , regardless of the range . The point I have been trying to make is knowing your personal 100% effective range in hunting conditions present , and when it's best to pass up a questionable shot at any given range .
I'd rather help a new archer to get within their effective range than to encourage them to stretch their limits and take "pot shots" at deer just outside their shooting range .
It's not unethical to take shots within your effective range , regardless of the distance , but it is unethical to take questionable shots and flinging arrows way outside your effective range .
Every situation is different in the woods when shooting at live deer . When in doubt , let down and pass on the shot . If it feels right , you are confident in making the shot and is within your 100% effective range under the hunting conditions present , go for it .
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#879619 - 08/21/08 12:54 PM Re: Fifty yard shots.Who's tried it? [Re: Radar]
POSSUM HUNTER
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 Originally Posted By: Radar
 Originally Posted By: WestTn Huntin'man
 Originally Posted By: pubhunter17
Sorry on the Bushman show and watched Lee kill two deer at fifty yards plus.I thought that was pretty cool and sorta stupid.I don't feel like that is an ethical shot but he stated if your going to do it for a living you have to take the shot when you can.I going to pratice at 50 yrds but I don't think I'll shoot an animal at that distance.

Thats the problem with many businesses today No ecthic's.I wonder how many guys that would not take that 50 yard plus shot saw it and say if he can do it so can I.???They never show the gut shot unrecovered deer. They only show the perfect shot and perfect recovery's. I used to watch all the hunting shows. Don't watch any of them anymore. I prefer the one man uneditted show when I hit the woods.Some days are perfect,some not so perfect. They're all good if I'm in the woods.



Just like on a hunting forum , No one will talk about the shots they missed or wounded , just brag about the good shots they made . It's human nature I guess .
I have nothing against an accomplished archer and bowhunter taking a shot within their effective range , regardless of the range . The point I have been trying to make is knowing your personal 100% effective range in hunting conditions present , and when it's best to pass up a questionable shot at any given range .
I'd rather help a new archer to get within their effective range than to encourage them to stretch their limits and take "pot shots" at deer just outside their shooting range .


very well said
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