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#835198 - 07/23/08 09:06 PM Re: SHUTTLE SERVICE [Re: ]
mr.big
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 Originally Posted By: captain hook
The canoe hatch ruined the Hiwassee for many many folks. It just got to the point it was so miserable to try and fish that it wasn't worth the effort.

I am thankful every day of my home rivers that there is no commercial canoe operations and we can fish in peace without listening to the rhythmic Ben Hur style paddling in the back ground.

The least "outfitters" could do is try and coach their customers on proper river etiquette and to give fisherman respect.

It all goes back to an argument I had yesterday that the people who pay the salaries of the folks who manage and maintain our playgrounds get over run by the rest of the free loading public anymore.

They charge for ATV's in some of the WMA's, I say charge the outfitters and the canoeists for their use on the rivers.


does fish guides have to pay a special permit to use the resource??
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#835263 - 07/23/08 09:27 PM Re: SHUTTLE SERVICE [Re: ]
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IMO ,,guides should have to pay the commercial permit..if your making money off what my liscense pays for you should have to pay extra..
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#835371 - 07/24/08 12:33 AM Re: SHUTTLE SERVICE [Re: mr.big]
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There actually is a law in place regarding guides on navigable waters in TN. I only know of one guide who is in compliance. \:\)

But hey, back to the topic. This Surf guy is okay. He may have come across a bit rough but he is really on our side. Now if he could get Mr. Paschal to let us take out on his land, that would be just great.
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#835941 - 07/24/08 10:35 AM Re: SHUTTLE SERVICE [Re: bowriter]
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 Originally Posted By: bowriter
There actually is a law in place regarding guides on navigable waters in TN. I only know of one guide who is in compliance. \:\)


What law are you referring to?

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#836103 - 07/24/08 12:26 PM Re: SHUTTLE SERVICE [Re: Fordman]
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Got your Coast Guard Capitans license, Troy?

Yep. It is a law.
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#836302 - 07/24/08 02:15 PM Re: SHUTTLE SERVICE [Re: bowriter]
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Nope its not. They do not require the Capts license for a fishing guide on any waterway in Tennessee. Spoke with the Coast Guard not a week ago. Kentucky requires it on the cumberland but your not required it in TENNESSEE......
However there are certain waterways that require the NEW HANDY DANDY coast guard" Limited fishing guides licence". After talking to the coast guard office if Memphis I have learned a handful of useful information.

1. They have no idea where the new guide license is required other than the Cumberland River in Kentucky.

2. They are not sure what forms, tests, and certificates one needs to get the license.

3. They do however know a captains license in no longer a requirement.

In a nutshell you are partially correct. The laws read navigable waterway and according the the US coast guard they dont "enforce" that on any known waterways in Tennessee for fishing guides......Yet.
THe upside is that a Coast Guard six pack license was exoensive and the limited guide licence is 200.00 .

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#836314 - 07/24/08 02:24 PM Re: SHUTTLE SERVICE [Re: Fordman]
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troy- As I understand it, it is if you guide on any of the TVA system. Maybe Rsimms can explain it to you. Way I understand it, if you guide on any body of water that can end up either unimpeded or through alock system, in saltwater, you need this license.

BTW- I don't have one, either. Doubt I could pass the test. I'm not real current on celestial navigation.
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#836318 - 07/24/08 02:30 PM Re: SHUTTLE SERVICE [Re: bowriter]
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Since we have now totally hijacked this thread, let me add this. As I understand it, if you guide on the Caney Fork, (Obey)which empties into the Cumberland, you would have to have this license.

Should never have brought this up. Good thing I'm not a guide.
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#836319 - 07/24/08 02:30 PM Re: SHUTTLE SERVICE [Re: bowriter]
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I know about that law... When I asked very pointed questions about where is was required I got...... please hold...... oh sir its only required in Kentucky. I know your supposed to have it by the book, and I am in the process off getting mine but.... well heyel you know they are not enforcing that anywhere but the upper cumby.
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#836328 - 07/24/08 02:41 PM Re: SHUTTLE SERVICE [Re: Fordman]
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Yes, I know that. But as I said, the law is in place. There are two lakes where it is very lightly enforced...and that is only if you screw up. But, as I said, the law is in place.
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