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#824193 - 07/16/08 01:50 PM 2 Stroke verse 4 Stroke
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I kicking around the idea of upgrading to a 40 or 50 H.P. for my 17' Alum. boat
Tiller handle model.

I know the 4 stroke will get a little better gas mileage but its hard for me to get away from the 2 stroke, sense that is all I have every been around.

Is the 4 stroke that much better on gas to put up with its larger size?

Give me some input on your experience with either one.

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#824212 - 07/16/08 02:08 PM Re: 2 Stroke verse 4 Stroke [Re: Slaughter-06]
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I will not reveal names, but I know some of the better outboard mechanics in the southeast (maybe even the country) and they say they would not buy a 4 stroke.
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#824295 - 07/16/08 03:16 PM Re: 2 Stroke verse 4 Stroke [Re: Headhunter]
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can ya hang onto 1 with that much horse power with a stick ? man thats some power,mike243
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#824325 - 07/16/08 03:35 PM Re: 2 Stroke verse 4 Stroke [Re: mike243]
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I got a 1977 20 hp mercury on mine and still runnin strong,only replaced the top end and couple impellers. ive heard good things about them 4 stokes, but who knows howlong they'll last since its still new to market, at least you dont have to premix!
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#824402 - 07/16/08 04:10 PM Re: 2 Stroke verse 4 Stroke [Re: ]
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All depends on how long you have been married.
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#824410 - 07/16/08 04:13 PM Re: 2 Stroke verse 4 Stroke [Re: bowriter]
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Or how long its been.
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#824421 - 07/16/08 04:19 PM Re: 2 Stroke verse 4 Stroke [Re: bowriter]
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 Originally Posted By: bowriter
All depends on how long you have been married.


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#824652 - 07/16/08 07:42 PM Re: 2 Stroke verse 4 Stroke [Re: Slaughter-06]
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First post...been lurking around here since RSimms clued me in.
I can only speak for myself but I've got an '05, 60 hp Merc, and it came with a couple of bugs but once they were fixed it has run great(knock,knock). Was told by two different gearheads that Mercury was contracting four strokes to Yamaha for a while and I got one.

The Motorguide on my Tracker also came with a quality control problem.....the hole the pull rope comes up through had rough edges top and bottom so I put a grommet in....after I broke the first dang rope.
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#824733 - 07/16/08 08:42 PM Re: 2 Stroke verse 4 Stroke [Re: madgapper]
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I have a 9.8 4 stroke tohatsu, and it runs great and its so quiet.
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#825798 - 07/17/08 01:20 PM Re: 2 Stroke verse 4 Stroke [Re: Slaughter-06]
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Once you've gone 4 stroke, you'll never go back. I run a 60 HP Yamaha 4 stroke. I tell folks that sometimes I think I get back to the ramp with more gas than I started with. It is quiet as church mouse, starts & idles like a dream. And I LOVE not having to mix fuel! Of course they're better on the environment and you don't have to breath in the 2 stroke stench.

Downside... they can be slower coming out of the hole, and larger size might cut speed some (depending upon boat, size of motor and other variables). They are more expensive... there are some great deals on 2 strokes out there these days.

But for me, the good things far outweigh the bad. I will never run another 2 stroke.
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#825842 - 07/17/08 01:39 PM Re: 2 Stroke verse 4 Stroke [Re: rsimms]
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I love my 60/40 Merc. jet drive 4 stroke . It gets great gas mileage , and less maintenance than a two stroke . I have never known a two stroke motor in any boat or motorcycle to be more reliable than a 4 stroke .
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#826113 - 07/17/08 04:38 PM Re: 2 Stroke verse 4 Stroke [Re: trealtree]
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The life of a 2 stroke is the oil mixture. I had a 175 the VRO went out on and was mixing very little oil with gas. Dropped the #6 clyinder. Had it rebuilt, changed to a straight pump and mix my own oil. Motor was built in 1989 and still runs like a top. I see a lot of 4 stroke engines on pontoon boats and such but most of the bass guys still run 2 stroke.
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#826166 - 07/17/08 05:09 PM Re: 2 Stroke verse 4 Stroke [Re: turkeyhunter64]
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I've got a 135 hp Honda four stroke on my pontoon boat. Runs like a top.
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#826945 - 07/18/08 07:38 AM Re: 2 Stroke verse 4 Stroke [Re: Headhunter]
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 Originally Posted By: Headhunter
I will not reveal names, but I know some of the better outboard mechanics in the southeast (maybe even the country) and they say they would not buy a 4 stroke.


Ok this made me think a 2 stroke was the way to go.

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#826947 - 07/18/08 07:40 AM Re: 2 Stroke verse 4 Stroke [Re: rsimms]
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 Originally Posted By: rsimms
Once you've gone 4 stroke, you'll never go back. I run a 60 HP Yamaha 4 stroke. I tell folks that sometimes I think I get back to the ramp with more gas than I started with. It is quiet as church mouse, starts & idles like a dream. And I LOVE not having to mix fuel! Of course they're better on the environment and you don't have to breath in the 2 stroke stench.

Downside... they can be slower coming out of the hole, and larger size might cut speed some (depending upon boat, size of motor and other variables). They are more expensive... there are some great deals on 2 strokes out there these days.

But for me, the good things far outweigh the bad. I will never run another 2 stroke.


Then a man that makes his living out on the water comes along with this.

Man I still am confused. \:D

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#827025 - 07/18/08 08:25 AM Re: 2 Stroke verse 4 Stroke [Re: Slaughter-06]
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Good luck.
I ain't qualified to answer but if I were going to buy a boat today I would go with a four stroke.
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#827079 - 07/18/08 08:53 AM Re: 2 Stroke verse 4 Stroke [Re: RUGER]
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Not trying to influence anyone, but I was influenced by the guys I talked to. I can promise you they are some of the best. One of them was "the man" for a major outboard company for many years. He said the cost of working on a 4 stroke was out of sight compared to a 2 stroke. Maybe he just does not like working on 4 strokes or some other reason, but he has never steered me wrong.
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#827105 - 07/18/08 09:06 AM Re: 2 Stroke verse 4 Stroke [Re: Headhunter]
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2 strokes will soon become obsolete . Any new motor you buy now will be a 4 stroke due to the emissions regulations .
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#827110 - 07/18/08 09:09 AM Re: 2 Stroke verse 4 Stroke [Re: Headhunter]
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I am going to have to give this some serious thunking!
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#827112 - 07/18/08 09:10 AM Re: 2 Stroke verse 4 Stroke [Re: Radar]
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I dont think I would take a mechanics advice, since they are bias. Maybe some mechanics dont like them because they dont break as often. just an idea.
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#827149 - 07/18/08 09:35 AM Re: 2 Stroke verse 4 Stroke [Re: trealtree]
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No one has mentioned that 4-strokes are quite a bit heavier if that makes any difference. As far as gas goes, it would take a few years of running to save what you would pay for a four stroke.
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#827198 - 07/18/08 10:20 AM Re: 2 Stroke verse 4 Stroke [Re: holstonangler]
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Yes, the main reason I got a 2 on my Riverhawk rather than a 4 is that every pound makes a difference in skinny water, and there was enough of a weight difference to sway me.
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#827222 - 07/18/08 10:32 AM Re: 2 Stroke verse 4 Stroke [Re: gil1]
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I see what ya'll are saying about the mechanics saying two strokes are better and I think I may know where they are coming from.
Racing motorcycles are now going to more and more four strokes. The reason the mechanics are saying that is indeed that it cost ALOT more to overhaul a four stroke than a two.
The kicker to this and what you have to remember is, the NEED TO REBUILD a fourstroke is ALOT less than a two. \:D
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#827422 - 07/18/08 01:37 PM Re: 2 Stroke verse 4 Stroke [Re: RUGER]
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TOHATSU 9.8 HP 4 STROKE WEIGHT: 81 LBS

YAMAHA 9.9 2 STROKE WEIGHT: 79 LBS
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#827747 - 07/18/08 07:24 PM Re: 2 Stroke verse 4 Stroke [Re: trealtree]
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not much weight difference on the 9.9 hp.
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#828424 - 07/19/08 12:34 PM Re: 2 Stroke verse 4 Stroke [Re: RUGER]
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 Originally Posted By: RUGER
I see what ya'll are saying about the mechanics saying two strokes are better and I think I may know where they are coming from.
Racing motorcycles are now going to more and more four strokes. The reason the mechanics are saying that is indeed that it cost ALOT more to overhaul a four stroke than a two.
The kicker to this and what you have to remember is, the NEED TO REBUILD a fourstroke is ALOT less than a two. \:D


I agree.
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#833983 - 07/23/08 09:09 AM Re: 2 Stroke verse 4 Stroke [Re: Radar]
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