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#821756 - 07/14/08 09:39 PM Re: Those who hire fishing guides [Re: Fordman]
trealtree
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Are there any carp fishing guides around?
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#821771 - 07/14/08 09:44 PM Re: Those who hire fishing guides [Re: trealtree]
Fordman
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 Originally Posted By: trealtree
Are there any carp fishing guides around?


Yes there are... call fly south and they will book you a trip to fish for carp no problem. 615-251-6199

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#821780 - 07/14/08 09:49 PM Re: Those who hire fishing guides [Re: Fordman]
trealtree
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I wouldnt use a guide around here. I was just curious. Im sure they get some business from Europeans.
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#821788 - 07/14/08 09:52 PM Re: Those who hire fishing guides [Re: Fordman]
gil1
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 Originally Posted By: fordman
 Originally Posted By: trealtree
Are there any carp fishing guides around?


Yes there are... call fly south and they will book you a trip to fish for carp no problem. 615-251-6199


Who carp guides besides Mauries?

 Originally Posted By: fordman
 Originally Posted By: gil1
I like a guide that will teach me a lot. I don't want to know his honeyholes. I know it's counterproductive for the guide to make me not need him anymore, but I usually get a guide the first day or fist trip so I won't need one the second day. Teach me how to be self sufficient. You can laugh, make fun, and tease, but if you start yelling at me, the pressure will just make me worse. Yes, be firm and not patronizing. If you try to take the fly out of my fish, you're going overboard.

I do like a boat and guide that are pretty squared away, and I also don't like surprises. You want me to pay you for the flies I lost, then bite me. Lunch isn't included, then you should have told me. I expect a boat to be stocked with everything we'll need and to be clean.

Some folks want a totally different experience, so guides have to be mindreaders or they should ask you what your needs are. If the client is too stupid to tell you he just wants to catch trophies and doesn't care about numbers, then it's his fault.

Do you practice catch and release?
How long have you been doing this?
Will you teach me as we go?
Will you be fishing too?


I would only take you if you signed an aggreement that stated you would not, no matter how big, try to catch a carp let alone put the slimy bastage in my boat!!!


When I'm going just for fun (not tournament), I won't even touch the nasty-azz things. They don't even make it into the boat.
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#821803 - 07/14/08 10:00 PM Re: Those who hire fishing guides [Re: gil1]
Fordman
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 Originally Posted By: gil1
 Originally Posted By: fordman
 Originally Posted By: trealtree
Are there any carp fishing guides around?


Yes there are... call fly south and they will book you a trip to fish for carp no problem. 615-251-6199


Who carp guides besides Mauries?

 Originally Posted By: fordman
 Originally Posted By: gil1
I like a guide that will teach me a lot. I don't want to know his honeyholes. I know it's counterproductive for the guide to make me not need him anymore, but I usually get a guide the first day or fist trip so I won't need one the second day. Teach me how to be self sufficient. You can laugh, make fun, and tease, but if you start yelling at me, the pressure will just make me worse. Yes, be firm and not patronizing. If you try to take the fly out of my fish, you're going overboard.

I do like a boat and guide that are pretty squared away, and I also don't like surprises. You want me to pay you for the flies I lost, then bite me. Lunch isn't included, then you should have told me. I expect a boat to be stocked with everything we'll need and to be clean.

Some folks want a totally different experience, so guides have to be mindreaders or they should ask you what your needs are. If the client is too stupid to tell you he just wants to catch trophies and doesn't care about numbers, then it's his fault.

Do you practice catch and release?
How long have you been doing this?
Will you teach me as we go?
Will you be fishing too?


I would only take you if you signed an aggreement that stated you would not, no matter how big, try to catch a carp let alone put the slimy bastage in my boat!!!


When I'm going just for fun (not tournament), I won't even touch the nasty-azz things. They don't even make it into the boat.


If I am correct both Mauries and Monroe will take carp clients. I cant say to much about carp fishing as I was tying skip jack flies and thinking about cold days at the steam plant earlier today!

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#821822 - 07/14/08 10:09 PM Re: Those who hire fishing guides [Re: Fordman]
captain hook
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Having been a guide for a very long time, I can say that ask around and see who folks recommend. Also don't set yourself up for failure by setting expectations far too high.

Last weekend I guided both Saturday and Sunday. One day on the Clinch and one day on the Holston. Expectations were entirely different from each group of clients and I far exceeded what they wished for both days.

If I was hiring a guide I would first inquire with local shops, and I would ask about years of experience and so forth.

The best guides in the world, not only put their clients on fish but innately know what the clients want without having to ask. They also can entertain as well as perform.

I could write a 5 page response to this question, so if you have some specific things you are looking for, or want a good rec. on a guide for anywhere in the SE I can point you in the right direction.



Edited by captain hook (07/14/08 10:10 PM)
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#821920 - 07/14/08 11:14 PM Re: Those who hire fishing guides [Re: captain hook]
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Assuming I had been referred to a group of guides by some friends, and I was simply picking between them for the best selection...

I'd ask:

1) how many years have you been guiding on this lake/river

2) Do you have a website I could go to for general information, pictures of successful trips, and personal testamonies?

3) What can I expect to catch and experience, on average, during a trip using your service?

If they can give you a good, confident answer to #3 on the list, then you know that you're dealing with someone who guides enough to know that type of information off the top of his head. That says a lot.
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#821987 - 07/15/08 12:17 AM Re: Those who hire fishing guides [Re: Crosshairy]
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Do you fish your brook trout baits with flourocarbon or regular leader material? Lip hooked or collar hooked?

Only time I have used a guide in fresh water was to help my wife get pointers from someone other than her husband in fly fishing. Ability to teach novices especially women is a real plus. There is more to being a good teacher than knowing how to fish. I think the sentiments above about teaching more than slaying are well stated.

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#822013 - 07/15/08 01:42 AM Re: Those who hire fishing guides [Re: stillinscrubs]
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#1. References

#2. References

#3. References

Phone numbers or e-mails.
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#822045 - 07/15/08 05:50 AM Re: Those who hire fishing guides [Re: Crosshairy]
captain hook
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 Originally Posted By: Crosshairy

1) how many years have you been guiding on this lake/river



This is the least important thing a guide can posess IMO. Some of the worst guides in the world have years doing what they do. Years doing something doesn't always equate to knowing what they are doing.

Certain folks are just born with the ability to not only catch tons of fish for themselves but to convey how to do mimic that for their clients. At the same time as meeting clients goals to the best that conditions and skill allow.
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