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#582526 - 01/26/08 06:58 AM Need help on Rem 700 300RUM!
Cull Buck Hunter
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Well I finally bought me a Rem 700 SPS in 300 RUM and I can't get it to shoot much better than 2.5 moa. I have tried factory 150's and 40 reloads and nothing gives. I have a good Bushnell Elite scope on top that has all screws soft set loc-tited. The pattern is always like a shotgun spread, no specific area, but located all around the bullseye. I have checked action screws and I shoot off sandbags on a concrete table, my other guns were shooting .4-.5 moa the same days so its not the weather. I thought about barrel heating, but it was 14 degrees and I let the barrel go cool to the touch between shots. I'm about ready to send it back to Remington, a long range caliber does you no good if it's not really accurate, 1 moa is a bare minimum.
I checked about stock clearance but the SPS is not free floated at least the two I have are not.and my 300WSM shots .5-.6 moa all day. Any pointers would be very helpful, I have never encountered a problem like this with a Rem 700.
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#582560 - 01/26/08 08:06 AM Re: Need help on Rem 700 300RUM! [Re: Cull Buck Hunter]
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I can't offer any advice on how to make that gun more accurate, except echanging it for another one, (or getting a Savage ;\) ).
I'm just wondering why you need that gun. You've got at least one 300WSM that already shoots great. You could just use that gun and spend your money on other kinds of equipment. Does the 300RUM offer any advantage over the 300WSM?
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#582566 - 01/26/08 08:17 AM Re: Need help on Rem 700 300RUM! [Re: Cull Buck Hunter]
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Need details on bullet/powder.
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#582615 - 01/26/08 09:27 AM Re: Need help on Rem 700 300RUM! [Re: TiminTN]
Cull Buck Hunter
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I don't have the load sheet in front of me but I pretty sure these are my loads.


Remington Powerlevel I 150gr
RL22(93gr) --168gr Nosler J4--col--3.60
RL25(98gr&97gr) --165gr Nosler BT--col--3.60
RL22(104gr) --130 Barnes TSX --col--3.585
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#582623 - 01/26/08 09:32 AM Re: Need help on Rem 700 300RUM! [Re: Deer Whisperer]
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It's not about need, it's about want. I have traded the 300wsm to my bother, I just wanted a longer range whitetail gun. My ultimate goal is to load a 130gr TSX's in it at a very high velocity for shooting clear cuts around the house. To be honest I just enjoy reloading and tinkering with guns. i actually considered a Savage, but they did'nt have one in 300RUM at the Sportsmans Warehouse.


 Originally Posted By: JohnDeer
I can't offer any advice on how to make that gun more accurate, except echanging it for another one, (or getting a Savage ;\) ).
I'm just wondering why you need that gun. You've got at least one 300WSM that already shoots great. You could just use that gun and spend your money on other kinds of equipment. Does the 300RUM offer any advantage over the 300WSM?


Edited by Cull Buck Hunter (01/26/08 09:33 AM)
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#582642 - 01/26/08 09:44 AM Re: Need help on Rem 700 300RUM! [Re: ]
Cull Buck Hunter
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3.77 is my distance from bolt face to chambered bullet, but I believe the magazine is set for 3.63 or something around there. my first two shots are the closest of the group then it sprays them into a 2.5moa group (4 shot) I got one 1.5moa group(3 shot), but the average is 2.5. All loads performed fairly close to the 2.5 moa mark. My Bushmaster shot .4-.5moa groups as wells as my 7mm Mauser .5-.6moa. It was 14-20 degrees when I was shooting, so barrel heating should'nt be an issue. I have never encountered a rifle that barrel heating changed POI an 1.5" at 50 yds.



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 Originally Posted By: TiminTN
Need details on bullet/powder.
ditto

also try seating out to the lands and use rifle as a 2 shot
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#582693 - 01/26/08 10:29 AM Re: Need help on Rem 700 300RUM! [Re: Cull Buck Hunter]
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I dont know if it would work with yours but all remington 700s Ive handloaded for liked 165gr bullets seated .010" off the lands.
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#582816 - 01/26/08 12:28 PM Re: Need help on Rem 700 300RUM! [Re: .444 Marlin]
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I'm going to try some .010 off the lands even if I have to hand feed them one at a time, if thats the ticket I can modify the magazine if needed. I'm going to try all options and if the gun does not dial in to at least 1 moa I plan on sending it back to Remington. I may even try another scope on the gun to be %100 sure about my optics. I could sell it, but I don't want to pass a problem on to some else, thats just wrong. I'm going to contact Remington and get their opinion on the matter and try a few rounds at the range Monday. I could rasp out the barrel channel on the stock, but I don't want to void anything on my warranty until I talk to them.
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#582829 - 01/26/08 12:37 PM Re: Need help on Rem 700 300RUM! [Re: ]
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I would say 500yds would be my max range, for now. I agree on the accuracy part %100. My brother has my old 300wsm now, I hoped the new 300RUM would shoot pretty close to the same, and it still might before I'm done. I have had this bug to try 130gr TSX's out of the RUM for 300-400yds deer hunting. As for further than that, I have to get this thing dialed in first. I will be pissed if this thing does not come around and I just traded off a tack driver.

Edited by Cull Buck Hunter (01/26/08 12:39 PM)
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#582922 - 01/26/08 02:28 PM Re: Need help on Rem 700 300RUM! [Re: Cull Buck Hunter]
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First, take off the scope, then be sure to check the bases again... make sure to lap the rings for better contact. Replace with a different scope and try your loads again. I know you think your scope is tight, but the amount of recoil generated by the RUM will really move the scope/base/rings unless they're perfectly installed.

If that doesn't work, rumor on the street is that most 300 RUM's favor either the 165gr/ 200gr bullets OR the 180gr bullets, but for some reason not both. I'd load up some 168gr SMK's, that way there is no issue regarding the bullet itself (I've had accuracy troubles out of the Barnes). If you get it to shoot the 168's under MOA, then you should be able to go from there experimenting with other bullets both larger and smaller.

If that doesn't work, time to ship her back to the factory for a once-over.

I've got a buddy who bought a 300 RUM sendero with jewell trigger because the original owner couldn't get it to shoot for $600. He looked it over, it seemed fine. With his handloads, the gun consistently performs in the 1/2 MOA or better range. Sometimes you just don't realize it, but your shooting form really comes into play with the heavy recoiling rifles.

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