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#565599 - 01/15/08 07:39 PM Need Expert Ammo Advice on 7.62.
Camp
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I just reposted over here from my post in General Forum. Thanks for advice.

I checked with a LICENSED DEALER while in Clarksville (being a military town, I thought supply would be good) today about some bulk 7.62 ammo for my 30-06. Didn't care if it was FMJ just wanted cheap for target practice. He thought I was crazy. This was our conversation. Him.."7.62 is for .308 NOT 30-06. It comes in 7.62x39, x49, x64 etc. It's all for .308!" Me.."But I've got a box left over still at home and had bought a few hundred rounds bulk of cheap FMJ that I've already shot." Him.."Not in a 30-06. ALL 7.62 is equivalent to .308" Would not believe me, thought I was crazy after all he was a DEALER. I gave up. Right now I am looking at the last partial box of Hansen (Yugoslavia) ammo. It says 30-06 Springfield, (7.62x64 M2) 150 Grain. It's FMJ for target only. I have a brass I dug out of the brass bucket from the bulk FMJ surplus I bought that has on the end GEVELOT 7.62 MOD.49. I'm assuming that is 7.62x49. I'm no expert...please help with "good" advice so I don't "put my eye out". \:\) I need to get some cheap target ammo and can order 7.62 for $5 a box or $200 a thousand but need to know EXACTLY what I'm looking for. Thanks.

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#565629 - 01/15/08 07:58 PM Re: Need Expert Ammo Advice on 7.62. [Re: Camp]
Blue5
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7.62 is usually thought of as .308!
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#565641 - 01/15/08 08:03 PM Re: Need Expert Ammo Advice on 7.62. [Re: Camp]
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In the U.S. 30-06 is seldom, if ever, described as anything other than 30-06. Calling it by any other name, while possibly technically correct, invites confusion and misunderstanding.
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#565646 - 01/15/08 08:06 PM Re: Need Expert Ammo Advice on 7.62. [Re: Camp]
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 Originally Posted By: Camp
I need to get some cheap target ammo and can order 7.62 for $5 a box or $200 a thousand but need to know EXACTLY what I'm looking for. Thanks.


Without a more detailed product description, it's impossible to know whether that would be what you're looking for or not. My guess would be probably not.
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#565723 - 01/15/08 08:35 PM Re: Need Expert Ammo Advice on 7.62. [Re: Bambi Buster]
Camp
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 Originally Posted By: Bambi Buster
 Originally Posted By: Camp
I need to get some cheap target ammo and can order 7.62 for $5 a box or $200 a thousand but need to know EXACTLY what I'm looking for. Thanks.


Without a more detailed product description, it's impossible to know whether that would be what you're looking for or not. My guess would be probably not.


Just re-checked it's the 7.62x54 (too short) not the 7.62x63 or 7.62x64 which I believe is what I have to have. Thanks for advice also posted over in General Forum.

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#565777 - 01/15/08 09:08 PM Re: Need Expert Ammo Advice on 7.62. [Re: Camp]
Francis
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7.62 NATO is the designation for the military version of the .308
The case dimentions while close are close, but not the same.

http://www.thegunzone.com/30cal.html
http://www.fulton-armory.com/308.htm

These 2 article explain quite a bit. One of the main problems with using military spec'd ammo is the pressures. Be sure what your weapon can/will handle.
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#565895 - 01/15/08 10:51 PM Re: Need Expert Ammo Advice on 7.62. [Re: Camp]
Camp
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 Originally Posted By: Camp
 Originally Posted By: Bambi Buster
 Originally Posted By: Camp
I need to get some cheap target ammo and can order 7.62 for $5 a box or $200 a thousand but need to know EXACTLY what I'm looking for. Thanks.


Without a more detailed product description, it's impossible to know whether that would be what you're looking for or not. My guess would be probably not.


Just re-checked it's the 7.62x54 (too short) not the 7.62x63 or 7.62x64 which I believe is what I have to have. Thanks for advice also posted over in General Forum.


I did find the 30-06 (7.62x63) FMJ for $149 for 500 rds. $178 with shipping. $7.12 a box. May get it, might just stick to Wally World for a few bucks more. Thanks again everybody.

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#565938 - 01/16/08 01:09 AM Re: Need Expert Ammo Advice on 7.62. [Re: Camp]
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 Originally Posted By: Camp
 Originally Posted By: Camp
 Originally Posted By: Bambi Buster
 Originally Posted By: Camp
I need to get some cheap target ammo and can order 7.62 for $5 a box or $200 a thousand but need to know EXACTLY what I'm looking for. Thanks.


Without a more detailed product description, it's impossible to know whether that would be what you're looking for or not. My guess would be probably not.


Just re-checked it's the 7.62x54 (too short) not the 7.62x63 or 7.62x64 which I believe is what I have to have. Thanks for advice also posted over in General Forum.


I did find the 30-06 (7.62x63) FMJ for $149 for 500 rds. $178 with shipping. $7.12 a box. May get it, might just stick to Wally World for a few bucks more. Thanks again everybody.


In the U.S. 7.62 is usually thought of as .308! In the U.S. 30-06 is seldom, if ever, described as anything other than 30-06 Springfield . Calling it by any other name, the 7.62x63 while possibly militarily technically correct, invites confusion and misunderstanding as these young guys are not used to seeing 30-06 military AMMO . The 30-06 (7.62x63) FMJ for $149 for 500 rds. $178 with shipping. $7.12 a box sounds OK but you need to find out if it has corrosive primers or modern no corrosive ones . .
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#566050 - 01/16/08 07:33 AM Re: Need Expert Ammo Advice on 7.62. [Re: Locksley]
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http://www.odcmp.com/ammo.htm
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#566100 - 01/16/08 08:03 AM Re: Need Expert Ammo Advice on 7.62. [Re: Tater]
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From how I understand it. 7.62 is the NATO designation for .308 Winchester. SInce NATO had barely formed when the 30/06 went the way of the dodo bird, most folks see the 7.62 as a NATO,russian...etc
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#566227 - 01/16/08 09:48 AM Re: Need Expert Ammo Advice on 7.62. [Re: Camp]
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Several 7.62s out there.
7.62x39
7.62x51---.308
7.62x54R
7.62x63---30/06

And probably several more. PH
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#566353 - 01/16/08 11:13 AM Re: Need Expert Ammo Advice on 7.62. [Re: ]
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Sorry for the hijack but does Grandpa's still exist in Clarksville? I saw your post renegade50 and it made me think back. I bought my first rifle from Grandpa's back in the early 70s. I remember it was a Marlin 39a that I bought for $89.95 and still have and treasure.

Sounds like you got ahold of a worker who THOUGHT he knew a lot.
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#566544 - 01/16/08 01:48 PM Re: Need Expert Ammo Advice on 7.62. [Re: ]
Camp
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 Originally Posted By: renegade50
what are you shooting a garand, an 1917 enfeild, an 03 springfeild????


Remingtom Model 760 30-06 Sprng. The place was on 41A (not grandads) but the BIG surplus store with the eagle sign and a pawn shop across the parking lot. Thanks everbody for proving I'm not crazy. I knew because I already had some 7.62 that was same as 30-06. I understand the other.308 rounds but I did TRY to convince the dealer that SOME 7.62 would work in 30-06 that not all was for .308. I know he didn't misunderstand me because I specifically told him 30-06 and that some of the cheaper FOREIGN surplus/manufacturers called it 7.62x?. At the time I didn't know the casing number (63). He just thought I was nuts. I have found a bulk supplier of new Bosnian ammo that the manufacturer lists as 7.62x63 and restates it as 30-06 like I had thought. It's noncorrosive, 150 gr. soft point not FMJ (which would mean I can use on groundhogs or coyotes too!), solid brass, Boxer Primed. By the 500 rd. case it costs $7.60 a box. More than surplus FMJ but I think it may be worth it for the soft point (since TWRA won't let you use FMJ on varmints I don't think) and NEW without any % being bad. Thanks to everybody I am now wiser and can order EXACTLY what I need!

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#566581 - 01/16/08 02:09 PM Re: Need Expert Ammo Advice on 7.62. [Re: ]
Camp
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 Originally Posted By: renegade50
that is eagles of war surplus store .... did they even say they dont sell firearms or ammo at all, and just a bunch of overpriced used or new stuff. he probably just did that to you to stroke his ego. old dude has a new corvette parked in front about every 6 months. not a place to buy anything other than junk / fake imitation military gear.


They just said they didn't know anything about ammo and sent me over to the pawnshop/gun store across the lot. The old guy there is the one that thought I was nuts.

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#566734 - 01/16/08 03:20 PM Re: Need Expert Ammo Advice on 7.62. [Re: ]
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7.62 stands for bullet diameter, the 54, 54 is the length. 308 and 30-06 shoot the same diameter bullet.
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#566857 - 01/16/08 04:52 PM Re: Need Expert Ammo Advice on 7.62. [Re: Hillbilly Hunter]
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Camp,

You might try the below,I haven't ben on the site but got there catalog today and they have Greek 30.06 Ball 6.39$ for 20 rounds.

http://www.cheaperthandirt.com
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#567853 - 01/17/08 10:09 AM Re: Need Expert Ammo Advice on 7.62. [Re: Tiny]
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Also might want to check out

http://www.sportsmansguide.com
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#568161 - 01/17/08 01:39 PM Re: Need Expert Ammo Advice on 7.62. [Re: Hillbilly Hunter]
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 Originally Posted By: Hillbilly Hunter
7.62 stands for bullet diameter, the 54, 54 is the length. 308 and 30-06 shoot the same diameter bullet.


In a nutshell, YUP! 54 mm is the length of the unloaded case.
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#569871 - 01/18/08 01:36 PM Re: Need Expert Ammo Advice on 7.62. [Re: firefox]
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I'm still betting http://www.odcmp.com/ammo.htm will be cheaper than just about anywhere else.
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