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#550299 - 01/04/08 06:32 PM crystal clear satellite imagery
stirrat
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have you guys seen this msn map sight. it is so clear you can see deer in the field. click on the "birdseye" and it zooms in
way better than google earth

http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?wip=2&v=2&rtp=~&FORM=MSNH
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#550349 - 01/04/08 06:55 PM Re: crystal clear satellite imagery [Re: stirrat]
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its not as updated as google, at least not where my house is
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#550353 - 01/04/08 06:56 PM Re: crystal clear satellite imagery [Re: LA man]
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mine either it wouldnt ever go to birds eye for me
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#550364 - 01/04/08 07:00 PM Re: crystal clear satellite imagery [Re: big 8's in Weakley county]
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not for me either.
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#550428 - 01/04/08 08:05 PM Re: crystal clear satellite imagery [Re: Bertman]
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that imagery looks to be at least SEVEN years old over my area and the ground cell resolution for the image tiles are large (1 meter) for grayscale imagery. I've tried repeatedly to inform folks on here about up to date (summer 07) COLOR (leaf on) imagery from the USDA NAIP program that is freely downloadable to anyone. Plus a very cool DIY GIS program called MapWindow which is also freely downloadable. But has apparently fallen on many deaf ears.... It's published in NAD 83 ft and viewable with the free MapWindow software. Here are two images of my place: one is winter 04, high res color 6" ground cell resolution, the other is the NAIP color imagery for leaf on July 07, the NAIP is crude at 1 meter GCR but it's value lies in the ability to discern summer vegetation classifications through either shape,texture or spectral differences not available with the winter imagery. Grayscale imagery is really a bummer cept maybe for locating funnels (JMO) Note: Keep this in mind, these photobucket images had to be piped up as jpegs and don't do justice to the quality or resolution of the images, jpegging just ruins tiffs or sids



Edited by stovepipe (01/04/08 08:58 PM)
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#550818 - 01/05/08 09:51 AM Re: crystal clear satellite imagery [Re: Stovepipe]
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try it again you guys it is way more detailed than these images. i can't figure out how to save the pics to post one. you need to go somewhere where the "birdseye" feature will work. my property works and it is in the middle of no where. i can read signs on the side of the barn.

try it again trust me it is cool
some one post a pic if they can figure out how
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#550838 - 01/05/08 10:25 AM Re: crystal clear satellite imagery [Re: stirrat]
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click on this. go to image number 1 and push the birdseye you can zoom in from there

http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?wip=2&...Tk1MTgxMzQzNTY1
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#550852 - 01/05/08 10:51 AM Re: crystal clear satellite imagery [Re: stirrat]
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It looks those pics are from a plane.
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#550869 - 01/05/08 11:05 AM Re: crystal clear satellite imagery [Re: stirrat]
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 Originally Posted By: stirrat
click on this. go to image number 1 and push the birdseye you can zoom in from there

http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?wip=2&...Tk1MTgxMzQzNTY1


Unfortunately, "Bird's eye" areas are fairly limited. They first get high-res images of urbanized areas and rural areas directly surrounding those urbanized areas. Moving up and down the TN River I get find few rural areas where "Bird's eye" images were available.
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#550870 - 01/05/08 11:05 AM Re: crystal clear satellite imagery [Re: BSK]
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Stovepipe,

The problem is, I don't use Mr. Sids.
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#550996 - 01/05/08 03:15 PM Re: crystal clear satellite imagery [Re: BSK]
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guess i am just lucky. my hunting property and my home are both available with the birdseye. if there were deer in my foodplots i would be able to see them. too bad it is not live. that would be alot of fun
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#551048 - 01/05/08 04:24 PM Re: crystal clear satellite imagery [Re: stirrat]
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stirrat -

My Dad showed me that sight too and was I amazed at the imagery. So much so that I am convinced it was taken with aircraft as opposed to satellite. Unfortunately not too many areas have the birds eye view feature though. I guess we're the lucky ones that can do our preseason scouting from the internet...

Here's what stirrat is talking about as far as quality of pic. You can zoom in much closer but this pic shows the detail of the imagery. If I go in too close, you'll just be looking at treetops.





I take that back...here it the homestead zoomed in...





You can even see the same area from a different orientation. Here is the exact same homestead from a North to South orientation.




That's why these images have to be taken from an aircraft, I do not believe a satellite can not produce this kind of orientation.

Here are two more orientations (4 in all N,S,E,W) with the homestead zoomed in.




and...





Now everyone stay outta my honey hole!


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#551073 - 01/05/08 05:14 PM Re: crystal clear satellite imagery [Re: BigGameGuy]
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It is about 15 years behind at my location and like most no "birdseye view."
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#551367 - 01/05/08 10:23 PM Re: crystal clear satellite imagery [Re: BigGameGuy]
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 Originally Posted By: BigGameGuy
stirrat -

My Dad showed me that sight too and was I amazed at the imagery. So much so that I am convinced it was taken with aircraft as opposed to satellite. Unfortunately not too many areas have the birds eye view feature though. I guess we're the lucky ones that can do our preseason scouting from the internet...

Here's what stirrat is talking about as far as quality of pic. You can zoom in much closer but this pic shows the detail of the imagery. If I go in too close, you'll just be looking at treetops.





I take that back...here it the homestead zoomed in...





You can even see the same area from a different orientation. Here is the exact same homestead from a North to South orientation.




That's why these images have to be taken from an aircraft, I do not believe a satellite can not produce this kind of orientation.

Here are two more orientations (4 in all N,S,E,W) with the homestead zoomed in.




and...





Now everyone stay outta my honey hole!
I agree with you. I would question whether those are actually satellite derived images. About the best 'over the counter' satellite imagery that is available for public consumption is captured from the IKONOS and/or QUICKBIRD platforms using a 1 meter panchromatic sensor
(half-meter highly unlikely for civilian use). BGG, those are most likely flown images from a twin engine Cessna 310. They are often attained anywhere from 2500ft up to 25000ft. Those images look to be either 1ft or 6 inch in pixel resolution. Most likely they are also digital shot using either a Leica ADS40 digital aerial camera or a Zeiss RMK TOP 15. I'm using the tree stems for my assertion. For those to be satellite images, there would have to be intense orthorectification to produce the quality of the oblique image you've shown. That may even be some of the Pictometry oblique imagery(plane flown). We've got a meeting the Pictometry dude this month for a county proposal, I'll ask.


Edited by stovepipe (01/06/08 01:03 AM)
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#551373 - 01/05/08 10:32 PM Re: crystal clear satellite imagery [Re: BSK]
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 Originally Posted By: BSK
Stovepipe,

The problem is, I don't use Mr. Sids.
on the NAIP seamless imagery, they are in TIFF unless I'm mistaken. Some of the other imagery products are MrSid. I hope I didn't get myself mixed up again in trying to help out. If you've got the time to download it from DataGateway, it's interesting to view. The downloads are about 480-600mb per county and it's all seamless. It does take a while to get all of that downloaded. Anyway, I have found that the MapWindow program is a basic viewer platform similar to ArcReader or ArViewer if you've had any fun with those yet....good talk fellas \:\)
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#551378 - 01/05/08 10:35 PM Re: crystal clear satellite imagery [Re: Stovepipe]
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BGG, TWRA sent me the examination announcement and letter for the GIS Tech 2 position up there. If you are able can you PM me. Just a quick question. Thanks...Rick
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#551602 - 01/06/08 09:41 AM Re: crystal clear satellite imagery [Re: Stovepipe]
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Have you guys tried http://www.virtualearthmaps.com? You can bird'seye certain areas there also with exceptional detail. I can tell what's in the back of my truck. The pics I've seen were made in about March of 07.
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#551690 - 01/06/08 11:21 AM Re: crystal clear satellite imagery [Re: Mike Belt]
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I cant get the link to work Mike
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#551876 - 01/06/08 03:16 PM Re: crystal clear satellite imagery [Re: big 8's in Weakley county]
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mike try address again that one is not working
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#552025 - 01/06/08 05:48 PM Re: crystal clear satellite imagery [Re: stirrat]
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It works for me.
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#552789 - 01/07/08 08:13 AM Re: crystal clear satellite imagery [Re: Mike Belt]
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The link includes a question mark at the end that shouldn't be there (it is the end of the sentence, not a part of the link. Right click on the link, copy it and paste it into your browser and delete the question mark on the end.
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